When Jaclyn Kinnon was seven, she lived more like a roadie than a second grader. Because her mother, Shelley Kinnon, headed the backstage catering for Southern California’s Irvine Meadows (now FivePoint Amphitheatre) from 1988 to 2010, she spent many evenings and weekends helping her mom pamper rock stars. One particular chore later became a rock ‘n’ roll fable.

“I remember my mom tossing me bags of M&Ms and having me pick out all the brown ones for Van Halen,” says Jaclyn. “But I didn’t throw them out — I kept them for myself.”

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When it comes to hospitality riders — a list of requests in an artist’s contract fulfilled by promoters or venues — the most famous is Van Halen’s demand for no brown M&Ms in their dressing room. But whether technical, practical or outrageous, the rider is an industry staple. It is also an endless source of fascination, finding its way into pop culture, such as the This Is Spinal Tap character Nigel Tufnel, played by Christopher Guest, who complains that the bread provided backstage is a catastrophe because it’s too small for the deli meat. For those of us who live far from the galaxy of stardom, this is an inconceivable world of entitlement and excess. But for those who work in the live music industry, this is their reality.

Touring may seem like an endless bacchanalia, but it is nonetheless challenging. There are long hours spent on the road and on airplanes, late nights, early mornings, meet-and-greets, energy-zapping performances, sleeping (or not sleeping) in foreign beds, pre-parties, after parties, and unbridled access to all manner of intoxicants. Since ticket sales make up a large portion of an artist’s revenue, ranging from Taylor Swift‘s billion-dollar Eras Tour to throw-everything-in-the-van-and-go indie bands, the industry has developed a set of best practices for how musicians are treated while on the road, and creature comforts, especially for A-list artists, make a big impact on tour. Swift’s humble 2008 tour rider included simple indulgences such as one quart of 2% chocolate milk, one stick of butter, one small jar of dill pickles, and three boxes of Kraft macaroni and cheese. Her Eras Tour version would presumably go further.

Particular types of food and meal preparations are rider staples that offer a respite from drive-thrus, greasy spoons and gas station nachos. While some artists travel with a personal chef, others may expect the venue to provide a fine dining experience.

“For Van Halen and Sammy Hagar back in the ’90s,” says Shelley Kinnon, “they had to have a big, lavish, sit-down dinner in their dressing room. We supplied the dinner, and it was one of the most expensive riders I can remember. In fact, I even hired a chef from the Ritz Carlton to come in.”

Kinnon has seen it all. Her eponymous catering business has decades of experience at venues such as the aforementioned FivePoint Amphitheatre, L.A. Sports Arena and Orange County’s Segerstrom Center for the Arts. She roasted a whole pig for an Ozzfest end-of-tour party. She whipped up a juicy roasted pork loin from a special recipe provided by members of Rush. She supplied many bottles of Cristal. While some of her food requests were easy to fulfill, like Jimmy Buffett‘s three grapefruits, others were more daunting, like finding chicken feet for the Jamaica-based Reggae Sunsplash tour of the early ’90s. Now, most rare food items are more readily available, but 30 years ago when, for example, various British bands would require HP Sauce — a tomato and tamarind condiment as popular as ketchup in the U.K. — she was at a loss.

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And then there were drugs — something that was oft requested but always unwritten. Since it was the ’80s, an era that was covered in white dust, it came as no surprise. (And no, Kinnon never provided it.) She also witnessed other high-maintenance requests of which rider lore is made.

“For Michael Jackson at his ’89 L.A. Sports Arena show, they were measuring the table cloths because they had to be a certain length,” she says.”Somebody had to taste all his food before he ate it. We even had to set up a separate dressing room for Bubbles, his [chimpanzee], who was wearing a frickin’ suit.” 

As the music industry evolved, so have riders. While artists are still making headlines with their demands — lest we forget Beyoncé‘s alleged 2013 request for over $900 worth of titanium straws, which she needed, according to E! News, for drinking alkaline water — at least some lean toward a more cause-driven purpose. 

“Florence and the Machine was a solidly expensive rider — a few thousand dollars,” says Tadia Taylor, who has worked in artist relations, tour and artist management, and event production. “Florence is focused on sustainability so it was important to her that there’s no paper plates, no paper cups, no plastic cutlery. I had to buy stuff like china, glassware and real silverware, but it didn’t bother me because it was coming from a good place. Even though it was expensive, it wasn’t frivolous.

“I actually kept all that stuff and reused it for other events,” she adds.

The rider comes from humble beginnings. In the early ’60s, they were utilitarian, consisting of performance essentials like payment preferences, sound equipment and lighting, which these days is categorized as a technical rider to differentiate it from the hospitality version. Chuck Berry, who traveled with his guitar in hand, asked to be paid in cash upfront or he would not play. (This was used against him when the IRS charged him with tax evasion in 1979.)

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Alex Hodges, 82, CEO of Nederlander Concerts, who has represented artists such as The Allman Brothers and Stevie Ray Vaughan, says his first experience with the rider was in Macon, Ga. in the early ’60s when he worked with the now-defunct Walden Artists & Promotions. While still in college, he started managing local bands around 1961 and eventually landed his first big star: Otis Redding. 

“Regional bands would tell us stories of the bare dressing room or the lack of equipment or water on the floor,” says Hodges. “The first rider I ever did was probably no more than a page or two. For Otis, it became more essential and technical, just the minimum requirements. And around 1970, when The Allman Brothers came out with their first album, it became a little bit more interesting.”

That is due in large part to John Hartmann, 84, a Canadian-American author, educator and music industry legend who has worked with artists such as Neil Young, Joni Mitchell and the Eagles, and who helped reshape the rider into what it is today — which can now be upwards of 15 pages. And it all began with Perrier.

“We invented the rider,” Hartmann claimed in Michael Walker’s book Laurel Canyon: The Inside Story of Rock-and-Roll’s Legendary Neighborhood. “I remember the big thing I wanted was Perrier. I drank Perrier. So I got everybody around me into it, and we ended up putting Perrier on the riders and no one knew what it was and people were sending to France to get it. Those kinds of things crept in as the managers and the artists gained power.”

With Perrier, Hartmann was one of the first to request an indulgence on tour that was something other than technical equipment or a per diem, making venues and promoters scramble to either hunt down or import the bubbly beverage. His request was honored, and later, when the British duo Chad & Jeremy called him with a venue issue, these combined occurrences revealed an opportunity.

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“I sent Chad & Jeremy to San Diego to play a concert,” says Hartmann. “When they got down there, they called and said, ‘There’s no PA.’ I said, ‘What are you talking about? It’s a venue, they’ve got a PA,’ and they said, ‘This is the kind of PA a teacher uses to talk to a class. It won’t hold rock and roll.’ That’s when we started, as agents, analyzing this whole need for proper sound and really got into the technical aspects of it all for the first time.”

Eventually, riders began to help artists and managers gain more power. If a rider was fulfilled, it meant the contracts were read. If they weren’t, it meant the artist had the ability to cancel their show. Since promoters and venues needed performers in order to run their businesses, the dynamic shifted from offering the bare minimum to ingratiating artists and management. The demands to elevate the standards of sound and lighting quality quickly became the norm for most venues, allowing artists to fill their riders with other, more personalized, requests. Thus, the hospitality rider (versus the technical rider) was born — and it didn’t take long for artists and managers to catch on.

In essence, riders evolved into binding contractual terms. Hodges once demanded in Stevie Ray Vaughan’s rider — whose last name was frequently misspelled as “Vaughn” on marquees, tickets and posters — that if his last name was misspelled on any marketing materials, the promoter would have to pay the hotel bill for the entire band and crew. As a fond reminder of this, Hodges keeps a framed poster featuring Vaughan’s misprinted name in his office. 

“That’s in essence what the rider’s about: To be sure the promoters are given the information they need,” Hodges says. “Some of the funny stuff you put in isn’t necessarily intended to be funny or difficult, it’s to be sure that they read the rider and take it seriously. We’d check everything to see if they spelled the artist’s name right, whether it’s a marquee, dressing room, or on a cake — anything that might let us know they weren’t paying attention.”

“The rider evolved based on the specific interests, needs or whims of the acts, especially as they got bigger,” Hartmann adds. “Those requests became rigid, and eventually no artist performed without a rider. When I went to Europe with the Eagles, America and Crosby and Nash — before Stills — we had unwritten needs. It wasn’t on the rider, but you gotta give us pot or hashish when we crossed the border into your country.”

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If there’s anyone who knows about riders based on specific interests and needs, it’s Darrius Washington, who is Steve Aoki‘s tour and production manager. Dubbed the “$30 million DJ” by Forbes in 2019, Aoki is not just known for rattling arenas with his high-energy big room house but also for lobbing cakes at eager audience members.

Known as “Cake Face,” these are not regular store-bought cakes picked up by a production assistant, but rather a particular recipe made by a local baker in each city of the tour. They are so specific that the cakes have their own rider, shared with Billboard, which offers a diagram, dimensions (12×16 inches), ingredients (plain white sponge cake, no chocolate or sprinkles), and the ratio of cake to frosting (25% white sponge cake and 75% whipped cream frosting). The rider also says, “A great test is to see how easily you can stick your finger in the top of the cake. If you have to use force, then the cake is not prepared correctly.” Even the foundation of the cake is explicit and must be made of expanded polystyrene foam board because it is soft and breaks upon impact, avoiding injuries that could be incurred by cardboard or plastic careening at one’s face.

“What most people don’t know about the cake,” Washington explains, “is that it’s all contractual. So if you fuck up our cake rider or your cakes in any way, it’s a $5,000 fee.

“We’re actually refining the rider even further because Steve has mentioned that they are on the lighter side,” Washington adds. “He’s been featured on Barstool Sports for how accurate he is with the cakes, but if you want to continue that accuracy, the cakes have to be a certain weight, a certain size, or else they don’t go as far. So all of these things have to come together to make this perfect cake for throwing.”

According to Washington, they go through about 800 cakes per summer.

Now, some venues go above and beyond the riders, not only fulfilling them in their entirety but organizing customized activations for artists and their entourage. Christy Castillo Butcher, senior vp of programming and booking for SoFi Stadium in Los Angeles, believes in the broader definition of hospitality, which is welcoming people into your home.

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“You wanna create a comfortable space for them, an inner sanctum to decompress before the show,” Butcher says. “Hospitality riders are key in creating some consistency from venue to venue so the performers know what to expect. From a venue side, it’s really trying to tap into some of the nuances around that. What are some of their favorite things? Is there a specialty coffee or food particular to the artist or crew? Are they fond of a certain tequila?”

From Butcher fabricating a personalized SoFi football helmet for Kenny Chesney to organizing a carne asada cookout during a press conference — complete with a local youth mariachi band — for the Mexican Norteño-banda act Grupo Firme, the rider continues to evolve via the venues and the artists themselves. 

“With the rider, the power went from the criminal conspiracy known as the record business to the artist and managers,” says Hartmann with a laugh. “The rider is now an institution. The ridiculousness is unlimited and it’s up to the artist — what are they not ashamed to ask for? Well, most of the time it doesn’t matter and they’ll just ask for it anyway.”

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The action role-playing game Diablo IV was one of the most popular titles of 2023, while its developers at Blizzard Entertainment just released a new campaign to get even more action and thrills out of the experience.

The Diablo IV: Vessel of Hatred expansion pack for Xbox Series X and Xbox One is available now starting at $39.99 for the standard edition at Amazon, Best Buy and other retailers. The DLC (downloadable content) is also available for PC at G2A.

Pop fans were brought into the world of Diablo IV in 2023 when Halsey teamed up with BTS member Suga for a revamp of her song “Lilith.” Speaking to Billboard about their collaboration on the track, Halsey praised Suga’s work, saying the song would’ve been impossible to release without his help. “We were able to infuse the anthem with intricate narratives that encompass a wider range of emotions I wouldn’t have been able to tell without him. He added a whole new perspective to the song,” she said. “Plus, it was just honestly really cool to do something so bada– with my friend.”

Keep in mind, Vessel of Hatred is an add-on for the game Diablo IV, so you need to own a copy of the game to download and play the expansion pack. Additionally, if you have access to Diablo IV with Xbox Game Pass, you’ll still have to buy the DLC to play.

You can order now and Diablo IV: Vessel of Hatred will be delivered to you via “You Games and Software Library” on Amazon.

If you’re not an Amazon Prime member, then you can sign up for a 30-day free trial to take advantage of all that Amazon Prime has to offer, including access to Prime Video and Prime Gaming; fast free shipping in less than two days with Prime Delivery; in-store discounts at Whole Foods Market; access to exclusive shopping events — such as Prime Day and Black Friday — and more.

Meanwhile, Vessel of Hatred is an expansion of Diablo IV, while it features new characters, locations, narratives and enemies to the world of Sanctuary. It takes place in a jungle setting called Nahantu and introduces the “Spiritborn,” a new class of playable characters who have the power of ancient jungle warriors.

Starting at $39.99 and available for purchase at Amazon and Best Buy, Diablo IV: Vessel of Hatred is out now for Xbox. In the meantime, watch the trailer for the game, below:

Want more? For more product recommendations, check out our roundups of the best Xbox deals, studio headphones and Nintendo Switch accessories.

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Are you looking for a new series to binge-watch? Amazon Prime has a new original series titled, Citadel Diana. This six-episode series premieres its first season on Thursday (Oct. 10) on Amazon Prime Video, according to Amazon’s press release.

This Italian series is set in Milan in 2030, and follows Diana Cavalieri (played by Matilda De Angelis) as she embarks on her mission as a double agent for the global spy agency Citadel. In this journey, she goes undercover in Manticore, “the rival agency that destroyed Citadel eight years ago,” according to the series’ description.

If you enjoy spy thriller series, this is a great option to add to your watchlist.

Alessandro Fabbri is the creator of this series, with Gina Gardini as the showrunner. Arnaldo Catinari, known for his work on Blessed Madness and many other films, is the director. This six-episode series is produced by Cattleya and executive produced by Gardini, Riccardo Tozzi, Marco Chimenz, Giovanni Stabilini, Anthony Russo, Joe Russo, Angela Russo-Otstot, Scott Nemes and David Weil.

The cast for this project includes Matilda De Angelis, Lorenzo Cervasio, Maurizio Lombardi, Julia Piaton, Thekla Reuten, Giordana Faggiano, Daniele Paoloni, Marouane Zotti, Carlo Sciaccaluga, Bernard Schütz, Jun Ichikawa, Maxim Mehmet and Filippo Nigro.

Keep reading for directions on how to stream the series for free.

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Citadel Diana is a Prime New Original Series. The first season premieres on Prime Video on Thursday (Oct. 10). The series consists of six episodes. If you’re not a subscriber, you can join Amazon Prime and start your 30-day free trial to watch Prime Video movies and more.

Prime Video provides an extensive array of exclusive TV series, movies and other must-watch programs, and you can add Prime Channels such as Paramount+, Max, Starz and Showtime, BET+ and AMC+.

Amazon Prime costs $14.99 per month after the free trial (students and EBT/SNAP recipients can join for 50% off). Prime members get access to Prime Video, Prime Music, Prime Gaming and Prime Reading, in addition to free same-day, one-day or two-day delivery and exclusive discounts. 

Besides Citadel Diana, Prime Video features exclusives such as Killer Heat, It Ends With Us, Marlon Wayans: Good Grief, Prime Video feature exclusives including The Idea of You, Fallout, Them 2, Space Cadet, Invincible, Road House, Reacher, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Citadel, Daisy Jones & The Six, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, Swarm, Harlem, The Boys, Tom Clancy’s Jack Ryan, Fleabag, The Summer I Turned Pretty, The Wheel of Time and The Legend of Vox Machina.

Watch the trailer for Citadel Diana below.

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The Billboard Family Hits of the Week compiles what’s new and worth your family’s time in music, movies, TV, books, games and more. Forget the mind-numbing scrolling and searching “what to watch for family movie night” … again. The best in family entertainment each week is all in one place, in this handy guide. Isn’t it satisfying to cross something off your list?

You’re probably seeing a lot of Ariana Grande‘s name in this week’s headlines: She’s hosting Saturday Night Live, she’s featured on Charli XCX’s new version of Brat, and Ariana as Glinda is just about everywhere as the rollout to Wicked in movie theaters continues. Let’s break it down for you — should you catch up with everything Ariana with your kids? — and share what else to look out for in entertainment this second week of October.

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In theaters this week is Piece by Piece, an imaginative take on a celebrity biopic that should appeal to the young and old. Through the art of LEGO animation, it tells the story of multihyphenate Pharrell Williams, the music artist, producer and fashion icon.

To balance out the screen time, get lost in a good book. Below are a couple choices for different age ranges, including a beautifully illustrated, holiday Harry Potter release, and a neat box set of a best-selling, realistic fiction series that’s inspired a movie my family’s looking forward to streaming on Disney+ next month.

Find more about this week’s top picks in the Billboard Family Hits of the Week:

JO1’s “WHERE DO WE GO” hits No. 1 on the Billboard Japan Hot 100, dated Oct. 9, tallying the week ending Oct. 6.

The title track of JO1’s ninth single debuted at No. 31 on the chart dated Sept. 18 after being released digitally on Sept. 9. It remained in the Japan Hot 100 since then and soared 73-1 powered by sales with the release of the CD on Oct. 2. The track rules sales this week while coming in at No. 4 for downloads, No. 36 for streaming, No. 2 for radio airplay, and No. 29 for video views. The CD sold 732,009 copies, coming in second to the group’s previous single “HITCHHIKER” (738,776 copies), currently the record-holder for highest first-week sales for the band.

SKE48’s “Kokuhaku Shinpakusu” debuts at No. 2. The group’s 33rd single launched with 319,722 copies to come in at No. 2 for sales, while hitting No. 64 for radio.

Mrs. GREEN APPLE’s “Lilac” slips a notch to No. 3. The former No. 1 hit continues to rule streaming for the 16th straight week, though showing a slight decrease (94%) from the week before. The track comes in at No. 3 for video, No. 15 for downloads, and No. 5 for karaoke.

ATEEZ’s “Birthday” bows at No. 4. The title track off the K-pop boy band’s fourth single in Japan sold 154,296 copies in its first week to debut at No. 3 for sales. The track also comes in at No. 93 for downloads and No. 65 for radio. No. 4 on the Japan Hot 100 is tied for the group’s best position so far, previously achieved by “NOT OKAY.”

King & Prince’s “WOW” enters at No. 5. The track off the duo’s sixth album Re:ERA dropped digitally on Sept. 30 and rules downloads and radio, while also coming in at No. 25 for video. This is the second time King & Prince topped downloads, following “halfmoon.”

Official HIGE DANdism’s “Same Blue” debuts at No. 7. The opener for the anime series Blue Box comes in at No. 2 for downloads (11,375 units), No. 4 for radio, No. 20 for video, and No. 27 for streaming.

The Billboard Japan Hot 100 combines physical and digital sales, audio streams, radio airplay, video views and karaoke data.

See the full Billboard Japan Hot 100 chart, tallying the week from Sept. 30 to Oct. 6, here. For more on Japanese music and charts, visit Billboard Japan’s English X account.

HARU NEMURI dropped her collaborative EP with Frost Children called Soul Kiss on Oct. 4, and also shared the new music video accompanying “Burn,” a track off the project.

Frost Children is a duo based in New York, consisting of siblings Lulu Prost and Angel Prost. The “Lethal” pair have released collaborative works with Porter Robinson, Danny Brown and more, and they’ve performed with HARU NEMURI on numerous occasions at festivals and tours in North America.

The “Burn” video was shot in Japan and features powerful performances by the three artists as they perform in a field, holding out against strong winds generated by a helicopter.

HARU NEMURI is currently on her North American tour. Tickets for the show in New York (Oct. 12) and Chicago (Oct. 15) can be purchased here.

HARU NEMURI TOUR 2024 “Flee from the Sanctuary”

October 12 – Brooklyn, NY @ Elsewhere

October 15 – Chicago, IL @ Reggies

Concord is raising $850 million through an existing asset-backed security (ABS), according to a new report by Kroll Bond Rating Agency (KBRA). These new notes are the third series of notes of a $2.6 billion ABS. The proceeds will be used to acquire approximately $217 million of assets that will be contributed to the ABS’s collateral pool, according to the Tuesday (Oct. 8) report. The new notes will also redeem the $500 million of the 2023 series of notes from the same ABS. 

Concord issued notes totaling $1.8 billion in 2022 and followed with another $500 million from the same ABS in 2023. Some of those proceeds were used to acquire Round Hill Music Royalty Fund in 2023 and Mojo Music and Media in 2022. Assets from those acquisitions were placed into the ABS as collateral in July, according to KBRA’s report.

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“We’ve very much liked the capital structure [of an ABS] that allowed us to relatively easily draw new debt for new acquisitions,” Concord CFO Kent Hoskins told Billboard earlier this year. The 2022 ABS had a “relatively low” loan-to-value ratio in the “low 40s,” according to Hoskins, which provided a buffer to do the 2023 issuance that funded the Round Hill acquisition. 

With the addition of the Round Hill and Mojo Music assets, the value of the catalog backing the ABS grew from $4.2 billion to $5.1 billion, the report says. The catalog includes more than 1 million compositions, master recordings and related assets by artists such as Genesis, Phil Collins, R.E.M., Carrie Underwood and Creed and gets 65% of its revenue from the U.S. Another 14% of revenue comes from Europe and 9% is derived from the U.K. Frontline titles account for just 1.5% of the titles. 

Numerous music companies have raised capital through an ABS, which allows an issuer to borrow money against the revenue created by music assets used as collateral in the transaction. In 2022, Chord, a venture of KKR Credit Advisors and Dundee Partners, did a $733 million ABS and Hipgnosis Song Management raised $222 million with one. Earlier this year, HarbourView Equity Partners and Kobalt put together $500 million and $267 million ABS deals, respectively. Sources have told Billboard that far more unpublicized securitizations have closed in recent years.

Tyler, the Creator disses Elon Musk by changing a lyric in his “911/Mr. Lonely” track. Keep watching to hear what the switch-up is.

Tetris Kelly:
Tyler, the Creator takes a shot at Elon Musk. Tyler tweaked a lyric to his “911/Mr. Lonely” track while headlining the 2024 ACL Fest in Texas on Sunday night. 

Tyler, the Creator: 
“Can’t see straight these shades are Celine Dion/ Sucks you can’t gas me up/ Man, f–k Elon.” 

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The Frank Ocean and Steve Lacy-assisted track originally featured a shout-out to Elon Musk. 

“911/Mr. Lonely” originally landed on Tyler’s Grammy-nominated Flower Boy album in 2017. Tyler has shown Elon Musk plenty of love in the past. Back in 2016, he told his followers on X, “I HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY AND ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE AND STUFF GO FOR THEM NO MATTER WHAT ****** SAY SHOUT OUT ELON MUSK” 

Musk thanked Tyler, and the Grammy-winning rapper continued to shower the Tesla CEO with praise. “NO THANK YOU, KEEP PUSHING AND GOING AND TRYING THINGS.” 

But that was 2016 and it’s clear Tyler’s changed his tune in 2024.

By the mid-2000s, Swedish songwriter and producer ILYA — who was then in his late teens — was “grinding, grinding, grinding” without gaining much momentum. It wasn’t until years later, thanks to a fortuitous meeting, that his career finally took off.

ILYA, now 38, recalls how meeting producer Shellback changed his life, as the latter introduced him to the acclaimed and mysterious Max Martin. Soon after, ILYA scored his first smash hit co-producing and co-writing on Ariana Grande and Iggy Azalea’s 2014 collaboration “Problem,” which hit No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100. His working relationship with Martin — and Grande — has continued, most recently on the pop star’s sixth No. 1 album on the Billboard 200, Eternal Sunshine.

The album produced two Hot 100 No. 1s: lead single “Yes, And?” and “We Can’t Be Friends (Wait for Your Love),” both of which credit ILYA. But those are from far the only hits he’s had a hand in this year; ILYA’s 2024 credits also include Conan Gray, Coldplay and Tate McRae, the latter of whom ILYA helped score her highest Hot 100 debut to date with “It’s ok I’m ok.”

“It wasn’t that long after [McRae’s 2023 second album] Think Later that we were in the studio again,” says ILYA, who reveals that they ideated her current smash before Think Later even arrived. “It was just an idea that just popped back into our life and we were like, ‘Actually, let’s finish this thing.’ It’s just been continuous since that.”

You’ve worked with Tate before. What is your metric of, “I want to keep this relationship going?”

Nowadays, it’s just good vibes. I don’t want to be stressed at work because I’ve been doing it for such a long time now. So my main thing is just like, can we just have fun in the studio? 

When did sessions start after her 2023 album, Think Later?

It was a little continuous because she loves writing and being in the studio. “It’s ok I’m ok” is one of those records where it was like, “Let’s just have fun; let’s make something weird.” I think it shows a brand-new side to her. The more I’ve worked with her, the more I feel like she knows herself as an artist. This one was [started] before Think Later — she knew that it wasn’t right for that moment, but she picked it back up and we really worked to make it into her vision of what she was seeing the song as. That, to me, is really amazing to see.

Tell me more about how the song came together.

The chorus started as a joke. We were in Sweden writing, and when she’s in the studio and so focused, she doesn’t want to eat or drink anything. She’s just like, “I need to finish this song now.” Me being the way I am, I’m always like, “Do you want something to drink? Do you want something to eat?” And she would be like, “It’s OK, I’m OK,” [always] in the same note. And I was just like, “Wait, that’s actually kind of catchy.” And now it’s a song. I like it because it came from her — that’s how she says it.

Do you have a favorite part of this song?

It’s harder for me to listen in that sense, because I’m a part of the song. But I do love when people pinpoint little details that you’ve put there on purpose. I love that.

You have to let go of analyzing. Once the song is out, depending on how people [react] to it, I’m also affected on how I’m listening. If a song comes out and it doesn’t work or it’s not a big thing, then I’m trying to analyze why it wasn’t instead of just enjoying the song. But nowadays I’m a little bit better at that.

Your credits in 2024 include other notable projects such as Ariana Grande’s Eternal Sunshine. With the Grammys approaching, what are your hopes?

I think next year’s Grammys [ceremony on Feb. 2] is going to be insane. I’m hoping we’re going to get nominated, but it’s going to be such a competitive year. It might be the best Grammys in a long time in the sense of who’s going to be nominated and what potential performances there might be. There was so much good music this year.

This article originally appeared in the Oct. 5 issue of Billboard.

Renowned U.K.-born singer-songwriter Corinne Bailey Rae has signed with Independent Artist Group (IAG) for exclusive representation across North America.

Managed by Anthony Patterson and Taylor Cottrell at Roc Nation, the six-time Grammy Award-nominated artist now joins the ranks of IAG’s R&B roster, which includes legends like Mary J. Blige, Ne-Yo and Keyshia Cole.

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Since her breakout self-titled debut in 2006, Bailey Rae has been a dynamic presence in the music industry. Her signature song, “Put Your Records On,” has amassed over a billion streams, according to a press release. Hailing from Leeds, Bailey Rae is a two-time Grammy Award winner, an NAACP Image Award recipient and a two-time MOBO Award winner.

In 2023, Bailey Rae released Black Rainbows, an album inspired by her time at the Stony Island Arts Bank in Chicago. The record, shortlisted for the 2024 Mercury Prize, showcases her artistic evolution and exploration of new sonic landscapes. To celebrate the release, she embarked on an extensive 40-date headline tour that includes performances at prestigious venues such as the National Jazz Museum in Harlem, The Serpentine Pavilion’s Black Chapel in London and Yale University’s Schwarzman Center. Her current tour wraps Nov. 1 at the JazzNoJazz Festival in Zurich, Switzerland.

As a successful touring artist, Rae has a number of impressive career accomplishments under her belt, having extensively toured in markets like China, where she performed four concerts in August 2023 with shows in Shenzhen, Nanjing and Shanghai and a headlining spot at the Xiami music festival in Qinghuangdao, China. This year, she appeared at the Outside Lands festival at Golden Gate Park in San Francisco and headlined the We Out Here festival in Wimborne, U.K. and the North Sea Jazz Festival in Rotterdam, Netherlands.