In its time Abbey Road’s Studio One has witnessed some of cinema’s most nerve-jangling scenes: scores to Star Wars, the Lord of The Rings trilogy and the Harry Potter series were all cut in this legendary room. For Sally Davies, Abbey Road Studios’ managing director, it wasn’t the images on the projector that had her on tenterhooks, but the judgments from movie greats on one of the biggest moments in the studio’s history: Studio One’s long-overdue revamp.

It was the first time the room had been refreshed and each decision – should the walls be repainted, or merely cleaned? – carried the jeopardy of impacting the acoustics of a beloved room. The space can host a 100-piece orchestra and was initially used by classical musicians before becoming the preferred recording space of score composers. Following a session earlier this year conducted by two-time Academy Award winner Alexandre Desplat for Jurassic World: Rebirth, the verdict was in: “The room sounds brighter,” Desplat told a relieved Davies. 

These are some of the challenges facing Davies in one of the U.K. music industry’s most important and unique roles. “You’ve got an iconic heritage in your hands, and have to make sure you do it justice,” Davies tells Billboard U.K. in the lounge overlooking Studio One in late August. She describes the position as a “custodianship and guardianship” and likens it to the titular role of TV show Dr. Who.

Abbey Road Studios in St. John’s Wood, London first opened in 1931 and was the home for classical music in Britain with Elgar, Prokofiev and Stravinsky all conducting orchestras here. It was known as EMI Studios until 1976, and saw off the threat of redevelopment when EMI put it up for sale in 2010. Ownership eventually transferred to Universal Music subsidiary Virgin Music in 2012. 

In its time, the Studios have been at the heart of some of the most beloved and successful recorded music ever released: The BeatlesSgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967), Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon (1974), and Radiohead’s The Bends (1995) to name a few. Recent occupants include Stormzy, Ezra Collective, Little Simz and Florence + The Machine

Abbey Road Studios Amplify.

Abbey Road Studios Amplify.

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But while fans of the Fab Four still queue up outside to walk the same zebra crossing seen on the front of the band’s 1969 LP Abbey Road, Davies is tasked with looking to the future. With the centenary anniversary looming in 2031, the wider brand is undergoing a refresh to continue its place at the heart of music culture. “I see my job as being here to fuel and turbocharge the next decade of Abbey Road,” Davies says.

On Oct. 2, the studios will host the latest edition of the Music Photographers Awards and honor U2 and Depeche Mode collaborator Anton Corbijn, as well as upcoming snappers. Amplify and Equalise, two programs that champion emerging recording and performing talent (particularly for women), are as important to Davies as the latest superstar swanning through the corridors.

“Those programmes help us stay at the forefront of music, otherwise people just associate us with Beatles and Pink Floyd – which is great, by the way – but I want to talk about the other stuff too,” Davies says.

Davies was appointed managing director by Universal Music in 2023. Her resume includes stints at the capital’s Science Museum and The O2 Arena; her last role prior to Abbey Road was as chief executive of live producer and promoter U-Live, owned by Vivendi. When David Joseph, then CEO of Universal Music U.K., tapped her for the position, she was hesitant and wanted to know more about how her people skills would mesh with the environment.

“He said that it’s a really complicated environment, and it’s a bit like managing a football team. You’ve got the players who need the locker room chat to deliver their best performance; the sponsors in the stands which help pay the bills, and then the fans who have expectations. There’s a lot going on there…”

The best way to learn the ropes, Davies says, was to simply observe. She spent the first nine months connecting with studio engineers, producers and runners to understand the rhythm of Abbey Road and received a crash course in achieving audio excellence. Getting to know people’s distinct points of views was key to cracking the studio’s unique “hierarchal” culture. 

“I liken myself to being a conductor in an orchestra. I don’t play an instrument, but I can put you together and make sure you play the right moment in time together and that it sounds great.” She says empowering the studio’s 100 full-time employees to speak up when necessary is vital to a positive, collaborative atmosphere. “We need to make sure we’re capturing different perspectives and debate them; that’s far better than someone holding onto a viewpoint and not being able to air it.”

Abbey Road Studios - Amplify 2022, November 12th 2022.

Abbey Road Studios – Amplify 2022, November 12th 2022.

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Now settled in the role for two years, Davies is keen to reaffirm their place in the creative process on a global scale. “What is a studio without the music that’s made in it? We have to be a home of music making and a hub of creativity, because it’s that that brings Abbey Road Studios to life – otherwise we’re just real estate.”

The portfolio is constantly expanding and decentralizing the Studios is a key aim. She points towards AudioMovers, an app that enables remote collaboration on recordings, which was acquired in 2021, and the Abbey Road Institute which trains budding students in Amsterdam, Mumbai and Miami as examples of this change. A recent collaboration with Adidas Originals saw the construction of a new studio in Manchester’s Co-op Live, and received a co-sign from Bruce Springsteen when he played the venue and toured the space.

Davies says the goal is to increase their global footprint and their presence in the consumer space. “The brand is well known across the globe, but the business is still here. We want to see how we can make it a truly global business, and also how to bring Abbey Road into your lounge, pocket or your car. We can influence your audio experience in so many ways.”

Abbey Road Studios remains one of the crown jewels in the U.K.’s music industry, and should be a shining example of British excellence. The space continually attracts global superstars (SZA, Harry Styles, and Frank Ocean have all recorded here in recent years) and Davies says it’s her job to ensure that the studio – and the wider U.K. scene – recognizes itself for its achievements.

“The music we make here is world-moving. It travels all over and makes people happy, and we should be shouting about that,” Davies says. “One of my main focuses is to share the breadth of what we do, and the level of ambition and innovation. We’re wonderfully British and too modest and humble, but maybe we need to be a bit more celebratory.”

The most recent phase of the refresh includes a reception area that spotlights the studio’s role in audio innovation, with priceless pieces of recording equipment being displayed to visitors. Next will be a rethink to ensure the Studios offer a welcoming atmosphere for first-timers. An improved concierge service for talent is also on the agenda, and Davies likens the atmosphere to a “boutique hotel.”

These are all stepping stones on the road to 2031’s big centenary anniversary, an opportunity to take stock of a British success story. “We want to show we’ve shaped music recording, music production and creativity over the past 100 years,” Davies says.

Taylor Swift is a multimedia showgirl. According to a new report, the pop star has a secret theatrical event in the works supporting upcoming album The Life of a Showgirl, which is set to arrive on Oct. 3.

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In a The Hollywood Reporter piece published Thursday (Sept. 18), the trade magazine reported that multiple sources had confirmed the pop star is prepping a project for big screens that will likely premiere the same weekend Showgirl drops. The exact content of the event is “unclear,” but it will be related to the new album.

Billboard has reached out to Swift’s rep for comment.

Swift is no stranger to film, starring in Netflix’s Miss Americana documentary in 2020 and releasing her Eras Tour concert film in 2023. The latter pulled in $179.2 million in the domestic box office, becoming the highest grossing concert film of all time.

The musician has also directed a number of her own screen projects, including 2021’s All Too Well: The Short Film. She has also reportedly been in the process of developing an original film for Searchlight Pictures, which she would direct with a script she wrote.

The report of the Showgirl theatrical event comes just two weeks ahead of Swift’s highly anticipated 12th studio album, which she announced in August through an appearance on now-fiancé Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce’s New Heights podcast. Made entirely with past collaborators Max Martin and Shellback, the full-length is expected to deliver a number of pop bangers.

“I was so mentally stimulated and excited to be creating,” Swift reflected of making Showgirl while she was on her global Eras trek. “[The album is] a lot more upbeat, and it’s a lot more fun pop excitement. My main goals were melodies that were so infectious, you’re almost angry at it.”


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Diane Martel, a beloved, prolific music video director who helmed iconic clips for Miley Cyrus, Mariah Carey, Robin Thicke, Justin Timberlake and Christina Aguilera, among many others, has died at age 63. According to Rolling Stone, Martel’s family said she died peacefully in New York at Memorial Sloan Kettering Hospital surrounded by friends and loved ones after a long battle with breast cancer.

The native New Yorker with a nose for unique, sometimes provocative visuals was best known for a pair of 2013 videos that pushed the boundaries of the medium, the controversial “Blurred Lines” clip from Robin Thicke feat. T.I. and Pharrell and the mind-bendingly weird house party video for Miley Cyrus’ “We Can’t Stop.”

Speaking about the impact of that rare double-double headline-grabbing duo in 2013, Martel told RS, “My s–t is on point right now. I do have to admit I like being provocative. That’s punk, that’s rock & roll, that’s hip-hop. It’s passionate. We’re not doing pharmaceutical ads.” 

“Blurred Lines” spent 33 weeks atop the Billboard Hot 100 during its massive run, but it was the lascivious video that drew almost as much attention as the song’s lyrics, which were criticized at the time for objectifying women and playing too loose with notions of sexual consent. The video featured a sprig of mylar balloons that spelled “Robin Thicke Has a Big D–k,” in addition a parade of nearly naked models cavorting with the fully clothed male performers.

Martel told Grantland that her intention was push back against the “misogynist, funny lyrics” in a manner in which the women overpowered the lascivious male gaze, forcing the men to feel “playful and not at all like predators” by asking the models to stare directly into the lens to show that they were in control. She said she didn’t think the resulting clip was sexist because the lyrics were “ridiculous” and the men looked “silly as f–k,” calling her work “meta and playful.”

Several years later, however, one of the models, Emily Ratajkowski, claimed in a memoir that Thicke sexually harassed her on set, grabbing her breast, an account Martel seconded, saying she asked the visibly upset model if she was okay during the shoot and screaming “in my very aggressive Brooklyn voice, ‘What the f–k are you doing, that’s it!! The shoot is over!!’”

Cyrus’ “We Can’t Stop” drew attention as well for its bold, suggestive imagery from the singer who was transitioning from Disney royalty to hip-hop-adjacent provocateur. Wearing gold grillz and writhing on a bed in a white bra and hot pants, the clip featured the then 21-year-old Cyrus surrounded by friends eating sandwiches made out of $100 bills, building french fry skulls, twerking, butt-slapping, pretending to slice off their fingers and dirty dancing with giant teddy bears.

Cyrus’ clip has more than one billion views on YouTube to date, with “Blurred Lines” on the cusp of that mark.

According to RS, Martel was a high school dropout who began making performance and street art in the late ’80s and working as a dancer and choreographer, skills that clearly came into play in her directing salad days while working on dance-oriented clips for Spears, Ciara and Timberlake.

Born in New York on May 7, 1962, Martel got her start in directing in 1992 with the PBS hip-hop dancer doc Reckin’ Shop: Live From Brooklyn, which led to her first music video for grimy rap crew Onyz, “Throw Ya Gunz.” That led to her first of several collabs with Mariah Carey on the dancing in the field video for “Dreamlover,” as well as gigs directing visuals for S.W.V., Gang Starr, Method Man and Ol’ Dirty Bastard.

An early high point was her home video-like video for Mariah Carey’s perennial holiday Billboard Hot 100 No. 1 smash “All I Wan For Christmas Is You,” which featured the singer frolicking in the snow with Santa and an adorable puppy.

Though her work could often push the envelope, Martel also had a keen eye for putting her subjects in a flattering, emotionally direct light, such as the elegant clip for Beyoncé’s 2011 single “Best Thing I Never Had,” which found the singer posing in lingerie and a wedding gown as she kisses of a former lover who never got her, capped by sweet footage of joyous nuptials.

Her reputation blossomed in the late 1990s and early 2000s, with credits including Aguilera’s breakthrough “Genie in a Bottle” and “What a Girl Wants,” Khia’s provocative “My Neck My Back (Lick It),” the Clipse’s gritty “Grindin’,” Timberlake’s dance-heavy “Like I Love You” (as well as JT and Ciara’s “Love Sex Magic”), Alicia Keys’ “If I Aint’ Got You” and Spears’ “3,” among many others.

Though her sweet spot was choreo-heavy pop, R&B and hip-hip, Martel — who notched only one best direction nomination at the MTV VMAs, in 2005 for her work with Francis Lawrence on Jennifer Lopez’s “Get Right” — also dipped into rock as well with the Killers’ “Read My Mind,” the White Stripes’ “Conquest,” the 1975’s “Give Yourself a Try,” The Bravery’s “Fearless.” In addition, she helmed videos for American Idol alums Clay Aiken (“Invisible”) and Adam Lambert (“Whataya Want From Me”), P!nk (“Just Give Me a Reason”), Avril Lavigne (“Nobody’s Home”), John Legend (“So High”) and Addison Rae (“Obsessed”).

Frequent collaborator Ciara paid tribute to Martel in an Instagram post on Friday (Sept. 19) featuring a number of clips from their work together, writing, “You believed in me and I believed in you! You will forever hold a special place in my heart and I am forever grateful for all the magic we’ve were able to make together. I know it was all God! Heaven has just gained an Angel. I love you so much @DianeMartel_ A.k.a. Miss D! Rest In Paradise.” Her final known music video was for Ciaras’ “Ecstasy,” which was released earlier this year.

Check out some of Martel’s most beloved work below.


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When Cardi B calls, she knows she can count on Selena Gomez to pick it up.

In a recent clip from her CBS Mornings interview posted to TikTok, the rapper had nothing but kind things to say about the Rare Beauty founder, who guests on a song titled “Pick It Up” on Cardi’s new album Am I the Drama?, which dropped Friday (Sept. 19). “I just feel like she sounded really lovely for this song, and she’s such a delight to work with,” the hip-hop star said of Gomez.

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“She’s a whole billionaire, and if you call her for something, she’s not going to hesitate,” Cardi continued. “Or [be] like, ‘Oh, you’ll hear from her when you hear from her, she’s somewhere in Bali living her best billionaire life.’”

“She comes through,” the hitmaker added emphatically. “And support.”

Gomez is one of several famous ladies who appears on Am I the Drama? The project also features collaborations with Janet Jackson, Tyla, Summer Walker and Lizzo, as well as Cardi’s Billboard Hot 100-topping duet with Megan Thee Stallion, “WAP.”

On “Pick It Up,” the Only Murders in the Building star and Cardi lament, “Pick it up, where we left off, can’t give it up/ I’ve been missin’ ya.”

The two women have previously appeared on a song together, teaming up with DJ Snake and Ozuna on 2018’s “Taki Taki.” The foursome performed the track together at Snake’s Coachella set the following year.

Am I the Drama? marks Cardi’s first album since her 2018 debut LP, Invasion of Privacy.

Watch Cardi rave about her relationship with Gomez below.


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Cardi B’s new music features several superstar collaborations, including a reunion with Selena Gomez. “She’s such a delight,” @Cardi B tells Gayle King. “She comes through.” #cardib #selenagomez

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Billboard’s Friday Music Guide serves as a handy guide to this Friday’s most essential releases — the key music that everyone will be talking about today, and that will be dominating playlists this weekend and beyond. 

This week, Cardi B brings an end (and/or a new beginning) to her long-awaited Drama, Miley Cyrus lets a couple of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers in on her “Secrets” RAYE searches for her not-yet-found “Husband” and much more.

Cardi B, Am I the Drama?

If you were wondering where the time went with Cardi B in the seven years since Invasion of Privacy, you can certainly hear a lot of it in her supersized second album Am I the Drama? Nearly double the length of Invasion at 23 tracks and 71 minutes, Drama contains a variety of new guests, subjects and sounds for the rap great, including the merengue exercise “Bodega Baddie,” the 4 Non Blondes-interpolating “What’s Going On” (with Lizzo) and the drill-influenced “Safe” (with Kehlani). It’s an overstuffed but thrilling listen, reminding us why we’d been waiting so breathlessly for the return of Full Cardi for so long in the first place.

Miley Cyrus, “Secrets”

Never a bad idea to get two members of one of the most beloved rock bands of all time on your new song — but Lindsay Buckingham and Mick Fleetwood are particularly good fits on “Secrets,” one of two new tracks from the deluxe reissue of Miley Cyrus‘ underappreciated Something Beautiful album. (The other, “Lockdown,” also features a Rock and Roll Hall of Famer in Talking Heads’ David Byrne.) The guitarist and drummer help lend a sweetly breezy ’80s Fleetwood Mac-style groove to Cyrus’ promises of “Anywhere you go/ I’ll follow” — making it a worthy follow-up to her Stevie Nicks-featuring “Edge of Midnight” remix of “Midnight Sky.”

Lola Young, I’m Only F–king Myself

U.K. singer-songwriter Lola Young‘s first new LP since scoring a global smash with “Messy” shows why she’s gotten fans on both sides of the Atlantic so excited far beyond the one hit. From the grungy bisexual anthem “F**k Everyone” to the fuzzy failing-relationship power ballad “Spiders” to the shuffling post-breakup waltz of “Sad Sob Story! :)” the album is bursting with hooks, personality and vivid songwriting, confirming Young as one of both pop and rock’s most impressive breakout talents of the mid-’20s.

RAYE, “WHERE IS MY HUSBAND!”

With blaring horns and jazzy drums worthy of mid-’00s Rich Harrison, RAYE conducts her frantic search for her future husband, wondering with increasingly manic verses what could possibly be taking him so d–n long to get her. As the song winds up tighter and tighter — with her grandmother’s sampled promise of “Your husband is coming” detonating the song’s ultimate climax — it really earns the all-caps stylization of its title, as well as the exclamation mark where a question mark would normally be.

Nine Inch Nails, TRON: Ares (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)

A year after releasing one of their most celebrated scores to date with the pulsing electro-house of the Challengers soundtrack, Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross are back — this time under the Nine Inch Nails moniker, and with recent DJ tourmate Boys Noize in tow — to take on the TRON: Ares soundtrack. Like Daft Punk’s TRON: Legacy OST before it, the set here is mostly divided into beatless atmospheric works and neon-hued dancefloor instrumentals, but Reznor does bring his trademark howl to a few songs, including the scorching top-five Rock & Alternative Airplay hit “As Alive as You Need Me to Be.”

Editor’s Pick: Wednesday, Bleeds

Prolific indie-rock heroes Wednesday are back with the band’s first album since breaking through to wider notice and acclaim on 2023’s Rat Saw God. The Karly Hartzman-led five-piece — which includes similarly critically beloved MJ Lenderman on guitar as a recording, but not touring member — delivers another spellbinding collection of scuzzy guitar crushers and twangy midtempo swayers, with some of Hartzman’s most piercing lyrics and alternately tender and pulverizing vocals.


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Alex Warren’s “Ordinary” continues to be anything but, as it scores a record-tying 14th week at No. 1 on Billboard’s Pop Airplay chart (dated Sept. 27).

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The song matches Ace of Base’s “The Sign,” which ran up its reign consecutively from February through March 1994, for the longest command since the ranking began in October 1992.

“Ordinary,” on Atlantic Records, first topped Pop Airplay in June and has led for all but one week since; Sabrina Carpenter’s “Manchild” interrupted its rule earlier in September.

The Pop Airplay chart ranks songs by weekly plays on more than 150 mainstream top 40 radio stations monitored by Mediabase, with data provided to Billboard by Luminate.

Here’s a look at the longest leading Pop Airplay hits, all enduring smashes, over the chart’s 32-year history:

  • 14 weeks at No. 1, “Ordinary,” Alex Warren, beginning June 21, 2025
  • 14, “The Sign,” Ace of Base, Feb. 12, 1994
  • 13, “Stay,” The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber, Sept. 4, 2021
  • 11, “Closer,” The Chainsmokers feat. Halsey, Oct. 8, 2016
  • 11, “Over and Over,” Nelly feat. Tim McGraw, Nov. 6, 2004
  • 11, “Torn,” Natalie Imbruglia, April 25, 1998
  • 11, “I Love You Always Forever,” Donna Lewis, Aug. 31, 1996
  • 11, “One Sweet Day,” Mariah Carey & Boyz II Men, Dec. 9, 1995

“Ordinary” previously crowned the all-genre, multimetric Billboard Hot 100 for 10 weeks and wrapped at No. 1 on the Songs of the Summer chart. Among its other dominations, it ruled the Billboard Global 200 for 10 weeks and Billboard Global Excl. U.S. for eight frames.

Warren recently discussed the song’s mass appeal with Billboard, musing, “When you write a song, you want it to apply to as many people as possible.”

All charts dated Sept. 27 will update Tuesday, Sept. 23, on Billboard.com.

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When indie rock band Rainbow Kitten Surprise returned after six years away in 2024, fans weren’t sure what to think.

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The band — which had become known since its genesis for its folk-meets-rock-meets-pop sound — threw a curveball at their audience with Love Hate Music Box, an expansive, genre-fluid LP that upended not only the group’s established sound, but their lineup as well, with bassist Charlie Holt exiting the group due to creative differences with lead singer Ela Melo. Critics praised the group’s experimental comeback. But as Melo describes it, fans weren’t as sold.

“We had been pursuing these sounds for so long,” Melo tells Billboard over Zoom. Sitting on her screen-in porch and dressed in a fluorescent blonde wig, a black choker necklace and a T-shirt, she takes a drag from her cigarette and sighs. “Then when we made Love Hate Music Box, it felt like the fans told us, ‘Okay, well, we’re not ready for this.’”

When it came time to start thinking about their next project, the quartet found themselves back at the drawing board, looking for something that could give them an opportunity to explore the new stations they occupied — Melo came out publicly as a trans woman in 2022 — while still giving the fans what they wanted.

Bones, Rainbow Kitten Surprise’s fifth studio album, manages to stick that landing. With a tight runtime and 10 freewheeling new songs, the band embraces the energy of its beloved live show throughout the new project, as the members jam out in the studio while riffing off of one another to make a collaborative, occasionally improvisational project. This time, Melo says, the goal was much simpler than reintroducing themselves to the world: “We really just said, ‘Let’s make a good rock album.”

Below, Melo breaks down how Rainbow Kitten Surprise created their new album, why many of the album’s lyrics were off-the-cuff ad libs, and how her transition has changed her approach to performance.

First off, congratulations on the new album Bones. How are you feeling about this almost being in the hands of your fans? 

It’s pretty incredible. We started working on the demos for it in June last year, and at the time, I remember we were scheduled to get in with Jay [Joyce, the album’s executive producer] in March [of this year], and it was just like, “Well, that’s forever away,” and now here we are. It’s just exciting to see something that started so small, even sonically, become so big. Just to see it come to life has been cool. Usually, album cycles for us — even on the shorter end of things — tend to be two or three years. Obviously, Love Hate was a lot longer than that, but even so, it’s just like seeing something come basically into full fruition in a year. It’s very fast.

Yeah, it feels like Bones came together lightning fast by RKS’ own release pattern, whereas Love Hate Music Box came together after a six-year hiatus. What about this album made its quick release necessary?

I mean, we put it out just about as fast as we could, but that’s true for most music. Most of the time it hits the label and then there’s, like, another six months of prep that goes around it to release the thing — that’s just the reality that the industry takes a lot of time, because you gotta print vinyl and stuff.

But as far as what was actually different between the last run and this run, there was just an excitement, I think. I almost felt like I was explaining myself on this record. It felt like [the fans] were telling us, “Wait, you just took six years off, and then you came with something that was really different. That’s cool, but like, what happened?” And so, this record is like, “Well, this is what happened.” We went down the rabbit hole.

So now, Bones is almost like a personal journal, lyrically and sonically. The goal really was, “Let’s make something that sounds a little bit more like RKS.” I remember we were doing a media training thing ahead of the last album, and I remember saying to the coach at the time, “Here’s how I see RKS; musically, it starts with a whisper and ends with a roar, and the band is that roar.” And I have to say, you really hear the band roar on this record. 

The lyrics on this album do feel very cathartic in that way it sounds like you’re saying what you’ve been wanting to say for years. How did you go about the process of putting the lyrics together for this album?

It’s very interesting that you say that — the process was, I would write the first verse, and then I would ad lib the rest. It was, “Okay, hit record,” and we would just roll with it. That’s why there are little interesting bits where it sounds like we’re just kind of playing with sounds almost. It became a stream-of-consciousness situation. When you take that approach, you just don’t get to censor yourself. What comes out is what comes out, right? That’s how you get that really raw sound and those emotional, vulnerable lyrics, because you literally can’t overthink it, and you don’t get to second guess, and you don’t censor. You just let out what you got, and sometimes that comes from a deep place that your conscious brain is not even really clicking on — you’re thinking one thing and what comes out is something different entirely.

That makes a lot of sense, because the sound of this album felt directly influenced by your live show. 

Yeah, and that’s partly because we cut it live. Once the demos were put in the studio, we would kind of riff off each other at the start of the day, playing around on our instruments, and we would eventually land on what felt like the right song to work on that day. And then once we’d found it, we’d establish our own guidelines. Like, “We need to play this guitar part in this spot of the song, and then we want that drum part here for this many bars,” and we would piece it together from there. I would pull up something on Spotify, play it, and go, “Can we get something that feels kind of like that for this part?” And then we would just roll tape and hit it.

For “Friendly Fire,” for example — [what you hear] was like the first or second with the band. We obviously hit it a little more when we went to Jay’s, but it happened very fast. That last build on [album closer] “Tropics,” for example, was us saying, “Dude, can we do something that sounds like this Flume song called ‘Free?’” It has the build over the whole song, and I really wanted to try that. We hit record, and everybody just went off, you know what I mean? I don’t know where it comes from sometimes, but I know when people are inspired and when you feel connected, good music happens. So we felt connected, for sure.

Has that improvisational approach to recording this album has made rehearsing and playing these songs in a live context any harder?

Way easier, actually! Because people remember how it felt, if that makes sense. Even if we’re like, “I couldn’t tell you exactly what it was I did,” we can still say, “I remember it went something like this.” Your muscles remember the feeling, especially when you have to do it in a high stakes situation. Those are honestly the kinds of parameters that we like to operate under. It feels like it’s the last minute and we got to get this together, thats how we roll.

Like, sometimes, I couldn’t tell you what the lyrics are to these songs. But as we get going, I’ll remember them, or they’ll come out one way or another. It’s part of what made this whole process faster. Love Hate was a much longer process, because we were like, “Oh, we’ve got to dial in all these synth sounds again, and we have to make everything just right.” For this one, it was just like, “Nope, we gotta go, let’s hit it.”

This is all coming in the middle of this huge amphitheater tour that you guys have been on — what’s the live experience of these songs been like so far, especially at another sold out Red Rocks show?

It’s been awesome. Yeah, it was definitely fun to come back to Red Rocks, man. In the week or so since that show, I won’t lie, we were struggling, because performing there is a hard thing to top, just emotionally speaking. But we’re gonna try, damn it!

The band has been using this tour as a simultaneous fundraising opportunity with the work that you have been doing with PLUS1 — why did you feel it was vital to make sure portions of those ticket sales were getting back to the LGBTQ+ community?

We’ve done it for a lot of reasons and causes before: Flood relief, when hurricanes came through North Carolina where a lot of us grew up, for a lot of other issues. It’s kind of a thing where there’s so many local agencies in every part of the nation that desperately need funding. So, being able to chain that through PLUS1, and through our umbrella company in order to make sure that money is getting to folks who are actively helping out the LGBTQIA+ groups was a no-brainer.

It’s all about the boots on the ground, the grassroots moment that we are in. That’s where the difference is often made. And you can really tell, it’s really palatable when you donate locally. I think it’s always important to do that kind of stuff, and that’s why we’ve done it for as long as we have. 

I know that this tour, along with the Love Hate Music Box Tour that you did last year, have both been your first experiences getting to tour with the group ever since transitioning. What has that experience of getting to perform now as the truest version of yourself in front of your fans been like for you?

Freeing. Incredibly freeing. It’s changed my singing, it’s really changed everything about the live experience for me. One of the things that I had to reconcile with that I didn’t know bothered me for so long was the tonal quality of my voice in transition. There would be times where I said, “Oh, s–t, this sounds too deep.” It was a weird sensation where, when I imagined myself talking, I didn’t sound like the way I did when I actually talked. I didn’t even realize I’d been wrestling with that my whole life. And I had to broker some kind of peace with it, especially ahead of these tours, because this is my voice. It’s not changing, it’s not going away, so I need to make good with that. Because if I don’t, then frankly, I’m not going to sing. 

It’s kind of made everything easier to sing. In early recordings, I was living under the false assumption — and in some ways, the false indoctrination — that I should have a deeper voice. You can hear it on those recordings, where it’s me pulling down, thinking, “OK, go for baritone, or baritenor. I gotta sing lower.” Because that’s what I thought people wanted to hear, that husky kind of voice, or that smooth, Frank Sinatra kind of thing. And when we got to Love Hate, I was just like, “What if I go the opposite direction? What if I try to soften and what if I try to get high and falsetto and breathy?” With Bones, I just sent everything right down in the middle. Now, I know what my voice can do either way I want to go. Let’s try and just do it all. Let’s just see what happens. And it f–king shows on this record. It’s crazy.

There’s all these webs you create in your own mind. Do you just run in circles, chasing your tail? No, what’s going to sound the best is just you just just singing. Like, you know how you want to sound, so make sure it’s what you want to be doing, not what you think everyone else wants you to be doing, not what you think you should be doing. 


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Capitol Records appointed Ian Holder and Tariq Stewart as senior vice presidents of A&R, where they will jointly sign and develop talent for the label’s urban roster. Both executives bring extensive track records from rival Sony, and will focus on expanding Capitol’s roster and shaping its creative direction. They are both based in Los Angeles and report to Capitol Music Group president Lillia Parsa.

Holder joins Capitol following eight years at Sony Music Publishing, where he served as svp of creative. There, he worked with a wide range of hitmakers including Jack Harlow, Lil Durk, Polo G, Moneybagg Yo, Pusha T, A$AP Ferg and producers behind hits for Drake, Megan Thee Stallion, Cardi B and Justin Bieber. Earlier in his career, he worked at BMI, signing artists such as Post Malone, Rae Sremmurd and Frank Ocean, and began as an A&R intern at Columbia Records in 2003. Holder said he’s honored to help continue Capitol’s “rich legacy of artistry.”

Stewart comes to Capitol from Sony’s RCA Records, where he worked alongside president Mark Pitts on Chris Brown’s Grammy-winning 11:11 (Deluxe) album and signed breakout artists including Afrobeat star Libianca and dancehall act Skillibeng. He also contributed to projects from A$AP Ferg, Flo Milli and Rich The Kid. A former defensive lineman at Florida A&M, Stewart launched his A&R career at RCA in 2020. Calling this a “hugely exciting time” for Capitol, he expressed gratitude for the opportunity to help build the label’s next chapter.

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“Ian and Tariq have both had remarkably successful careers identifying and developing career artists,” said Parsa. “As we continue to build the team at Capitol, Ian and Tariq will play crucial roles in shaping the label’s culture through the artists we sign. We’re thrilled to have both of them in these important roles at Capitol.”

Check out the rest of this week’s staffing news below.

“Every festival booker has their own process,” says Danny Bell, the founder and booker of San Francisco’s Portola. “Mine is definitely more mad scientist-y than other people’s.”

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Bell’s metaphorical lab is a spreadsheet, which he begins tinkering with a year before the festival itself. The sheet allows Bell to see “all the different looks at once,” he says. “You have your money grid, your mock set times, your poster.” He’s made algorithms that let him organize it by an artist’s subgenre, gender, race and home country. There’s one designed around when the sun sets and when there’s full dark. He works to select a group of artists who are unlikely to play any of the same tracks twice over the weekend.

“Can you do it quicker?” Bell, the SVP of talent at Goldenvoice, asks rhetorically while talking to Billboard over Zoom from his office in San Francisco. “For sure. There’s probably a much simpler way, but I do it like this. I want to make sure to have all these different visualizations because this stuff is is important. It all works together.”

From these datasets eventually emerge the lineup and set times for Portola, which since its 2022 debut has become a dance festival circuit standout for putting artists who helped develop the dance/electronic genre alongside many of the moment’s most essential stars and emerging artists. Every year Bell also reserves a set time for a pop icon, a space that in 2025 belongs to Christina Aguilera, who Bell promises will perform “banger after banger.”

While Portola has put a whole host of big names in front of the 40,000-person crowd that gathers at the festival site at San Francisco’s Pier 80 (past headliners have included Flume, The Chemical Brothers, Eric Prydz, Skrillex, Rüfüs du Sol and Justice), this year puts an especially heavy emphasis on “showcasing the legends and pioneers of the scene and some of the most influential people the last 30 years,” Bell says. “This lineup is a real ode to to where the current sounds and state of electronic music came from.”

He’s not being hyperbolic. The fest this weekend (Sept. 20-21) will unpack the influence of the ’90s era U.K. underground via sets from Underworld, The Prodigy and The Chemical Brothers, all of whom bent electronic music to harder, darker and more intense shapes during their heydays. There will also be U.S. artists whose work functioned as inflection points for the development of indie dance and dance punk — namely LCD Soundsystem, The Rapture and Moby. The Rapture’s performance comes towards the start of a reunion tour happening fifteen years after the NYC group’s last headlining run. Meanwhile Moby, who hasn’t toured the U.S. extensively in years, will perform with a live band and run through much of his 1999 LP Play, an album whose prolific syncing helped introduce electronic music to a generation of young people living far from clubland.

These acts are matched by several of the moment’s key scene stars, with the lineup’s other big font names being Peggy Gou, Dom Dolla, Mau P and Chris Lake and Chris Lorenzo playing as Anti Up.

“We now have fans who’ve been deep in the genre for 15-plus years, but 2010, 2011 and 2012 were the early days of electronic music being popular in the U.S.,” says Bell, who in this era was booking shows for HARD in Los Angeles. “Back then everyone was just learning about these artists for the first time. No one knew if Carl Cox was a new act or a legacy act.”

But with the people who got into dance music in this era now staring down middle age, “people have had enough time to dig deeper into the history and really understand who the pioneers were and where these sounds came from,” says Bell. “That’s allowed acts like The Chemical Brothers and Underworld to have a stronger and larger U.S. fanbase than they had before.”

To wit, a new wave of demand for these acts manifested in The Chemical Brothers and The Prodigy both drawing huge crowds at Coachella 2023 and 2025, respectively. Meanwhile Underworld’s Boiler Room set from London has clocked 1.4 million views since it was put online three weeks ago.

“When I started in festivals, the acts that were being played on Spotify Mint [the streamer’s mainstream dance playlist] were like, Alesso and Avicii,” says Bell. “It was all progressive house and some dubstep.”

With Mint now populated by artists like Sammy Virji, Fred again.., Sara Landry, Ki/Ki and Kettama — all of who have played Portola in years past or who will be there this year — Bell says it’s been “really fun and rewarding to see the acts I work with who I’ve considered left of center and really progressing the sound and the scene making their way up the ladder to be the artists Spotify Mint is programming.”

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Portola 2024

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There’s also the lineup contingent Bell lovingly and correctly refers to as “the divas.” In 2023 this was Nelly Furtado, who performed her ’00s-defining hits “Turn Off the Light,” “I’m Like a Bird,” “Say It Right” and “Promiscuous.” Last year, Natasha Bedingfield drew a tightly packed crowd that included fellow lineup artist Four Tet, while performing her pop holy trinity of “Pocketful of Sunshine,” “These Words” and “Unwritten.” This year, Aguilera is teed up to deliver her own arsenal of generational anthems.

“She knows what the assignment is,” says Bell — who also places previous Portola artists like Cobrah, Slayyter and Charli xcx in this diva category, a realm of the lineup that will also be filled by Ravyn Lenae this weekend.

Delivering these pop moments has helped Portola carve out a kind of quirky, if-it-feels-good-do-it identity that also manifests on the event’s Instagram, a channel that’s often deliciously unhinged and IYKYK funny.

“That’s another part of the ethos of the festival,” Bell says. “It’s very serious music, but presented in a very unserious way.”

The social media team of ten includes Bell, other staffers at Portola’s producer Goldenvoice (which also puts on Coachella) and a team from the marketing and creative agency Benchmob. The secret sauce is Bell’s longtime friend Dashiell Driscoll, a comedy writer whose resume includes the After Midnight With Taylor Tomlinson and a run at Funny or Die.

“I call him our staff copywriter,” says Bell. “I have him write our e-blasts and captions. Working with a real comedy writer, I can say ‘Hey, we need to tell people we’re 100 days out from the festival,’ and he comes back with 12 different ideas. (The idea the team ultimately went with was a “100 types of people you’ll meet 100 days from now at Portola,” IG carousel featuring 100 photos of many varieties of raver, along with Steve Harvey, Parker Posey, Ariana Grande, dogs, cats, a goose and other individuals with that special flair.)

“Let’s be real,” Bell continues. “There are a ton of festival social media pages and lots of other music pages and accounts that are all kind of similar. Anything I get that looks like something anyone else would post I’m like, ‘Come on, we an do better. Let’s try a little harder.’”

This extra effort extends beyond the internet and even beyond the festival site. Call it the mad scientist in him, but Bell cites a “strange obsession” of “always wanting people to have programming or something to do at all times of the day. I don’t expect everyone to do everything. It’s more just having these options so people can choose their own adventure, whether they want to start early then go to the festival, or go to the festival then to an afterparty.”

This year these afterparties are also happening before the fest. This is Portola’s most robust year of tangential programming, with Portola-blessed clubs nights starting Thursday (Sept. 18) and extending clear through Monday at more than ten local venues. “It’s exciting that we could do upwards of 40,000-plus tickets a day at the festival, plus sell an additional 30,000 tickets for the after shows throughout the weekend,” says Bell.

The goal is also to compliment what’s happening musically with Portola picks of things to do around with, with the festival partnering with a variety of restaurants, clothing shops and fitness centers. “One of Portola’s main concepts is just reminding people about how amazing San Francisco is,” Bell says, “and not just as a city to live and visit, but also as a place to party. We really want to bring the city to life over these four days.”

And yes, Bell is already working on the spreadsheet for next year.

Brooklyn-based designer Jane Wade returned to New York Fashion Week with her Spring/Summer 2026 collection, The Fulfillment, blending the grit of labor with the ubiquity of modern technology. Known for her obsession with workwear and dressing stars like Coco Jones, Tate McRae, Lala Anthony, and Camila Cabello, Wade continues to redefine workwear, this season taking her exploration of corporate hierarchies from the boardroom to the warehouse floor. A timer projected onto the industrial space’s walls marked the start of the show, reminding everyone that everybody’s clocked in, while exaggerated, utilitarian silhouettes translated the repetitive rhythms of work life into fashion-forward statements.

This season, Wade partnered with London-based tech company Nothing, whose sleek headphones, earbuds and phones became more than accessories — they were integral elements of the runway, blending futuristic design with everyday functionality. Even music played a pivotal role: the show featured a score from producer Adam Hadari that drew on ’90s trip-hop and electronic grooves, echoing the repetitive, clock-in-clock-out energy of the collection’s warehouse-inspired universe. King Princess also made a memorable return to the NYFW runway, wearing a washed-out denim set with a tearaway skirt that transformed from maxi to mini, highlighting the collection’s playful approach to utility and transformation.

Billboard caught up with Jane Wade at her Brooklyn studio ahead of the show, where she shared insights into the inspiration behind The Fulfillment, two musical artists she would love to work with, how she integrates technology into fashion, the role of music in shaping her collections, the cultural context of labor, time and attention in today’s creative industries, and so much more below.

You’re showing your SS26 collection this Sunday at NYFW. What story are you hoping to tell on the runway this season?

The story I’m hoping to tell on the runway this season is something relatable. I really want everybody to see how important their role is within their job — whether they’re somebody that, in my context of this universe, packs and ships the boxes, maybe they’re the manager on the floor, maybe they’re the CEO, maybe the director on the board. Every single person’s job is so essential, and we really try to cultivate that within our community — being really loving and really rewarding.

I think corporate tones and corporate structures are really having a shift right now, specifically in New York, specifically in fashion. With Gen Z coming through, no one’s taking their boss being rude to them or feeling not valued in the workplace. And so I think that’s kind of the storyline of what The Fulfillment is talking about within the hierarchies.

It’s just that I think everybody should feel relatable, but also feel valued.

There’s also a time notion in this collection, where our body’s labor is time and is paid for in time. I think everybody can, not necessarily take it away, but I think that will help relate it all back to everyone’s own experience in working culture: how we sell our body, our laborist body, for time and money.

Jane Wade runway looks

Jane Wade runway looks

Hatnim Lee

Music and fashion are constantly in conversation with each other. Has music influenced this collection in any way?

For me personally, music influences my everyday life. I think that’s why the Nothing headphone integration is so relatable. When we’re on the go, A to B, I’m always plugged in and tapped in. Even if I pause my music to take a phone call, I’m still using that hands-free aspect.

Bringing music into the show is such a special experience. We work with a producer called Adam Hadari, who creates all of our show tracks. I actually listened to it for the first time in the Nothing headphones, which was a really fun experience.

He produces the track for all of our shows, and we usually begin at the start of a season with a vibe. Sometimes it’s inspired by my own background, my parents were hairdressers, and I grew up in hair salons in the nineties. So trip hop was always present: early electronica, very groovy and trancy, with deep bass and a repetitive notion. We thought that was perfect for this sort of fulfillment center setting, like clocking in, being in this repetitive, never-ending wheel of your position until you clock out and become yourself again. So having that ’90s, trip-hop electronic influence sets the tone for that.

When you think about putting on a show, how does music shape the atmosphere or the way your designs are experienced?

Arguably, the music is one of the most important parts of the show.

It absolutely sets the tone. Music is such a huge part of all of our lives, and if you’re a mood-based music person, you understand this notion. Just like lighting, or the models, or the clothes, the music itself creates the atmosphere — it’s almost like a spiritual thing.

At a runway show, especially with a collection like mine, where I want each character to feel relatable, music becomes essential. My universe isn’t meant to be whimsical or imaginary — it’s sort of the antithesis of that. Instead, I want people to see small reflections of themselves in each character. It could be through the tech, the socks they’re wearing, or a specific styling choice. You might find yourself saying, “Ah, that’s so me. That’s exactly how I’d approach an outfit.”

Jane Wade runway looks

Jane Wade runway looks

Hatnim Lee

You’ve dressed artists like Tate McRae, Coco Jones and Camila Cabello. What do you think makes musicians such powerful ambassadors for your brand?

That’s so interesting that you picked up on that —and yes, it’s absolutely intentional. It’s actually part of my press strategy with my PR team. My publicist, Anthony Brooks, owns Anthony Brooks Consulting, a small firm with about 10 designers, and he’s very focused. Every year we sit down and talk through press strategy — what types of people we want my pieces to land on — and he fine-tunes it for each client.

For me personally, the connection matters. If someone is wearing my pieces, it has to be someone I admire and respect. That’s why you’ll see artists like Coco Jones or Keke Palmer in my designs. I gravitate toward musicians because I’m such a fan of music myself — particularly R&B and soul. A dream for me would be dressing Jazmine Sullivan, because I love and respect her artistry, her honesty, and even the rebirth she’s had in her career — leaning into tailoring, reintroducing herself as a woman, and channeling her experiences into her music.

So my strategy has always leaned toward musicians because that’s the craft I, as a designer, deeply admire. It feels more meaningful than just dressing random influencers or even actors sometimes. I want genuine creative collaboration — whether it’s through a stylist or directly with the artist. That’s what makes it resonate.

So intentionality is key?

Yes, and that’s exactly what I’m looking for and trying to build as I continue on. Same with King Princess in the show, she’s a musician, based in Bushwick, very cool, very down to earth. I don’t really like working with Hollywood people. She came into the fitting, was super humble and genuine, and I really respect that.

I respect her craft, and I can tell she respects mine, so it feels like we’re able to lift each other up. That’s what I mean about the difference. It feels different from how it was when I came up under others in the fashion space.

Jane Wade runway looks

Jane Wade runway looks

Hatnim Lee

It’s more humanizing.

Absolutely. We’re all human, just like you’re Chris, the person who doesn’t always work at Billboard. And when you’re in a clout-based industry, where that becomes the currency, it’s so easy to forget that. So for me, creating a special connection with every person I meet is so important.

I always want people to walk away from an interaction with me saying, “Wow, Jane was really lovely. She was such a nice person.” And that’s not my opinion of a lot of the people I’ve met or worked alongside in the industry. We have to be the change. We have to be the new wave.

Is there a deeper story to be told with this collection?

Every collection has a name, and every single name always has a sub-context within it. Our first collection was called The Commute, and it was about how we transition our wardrobe when going to and from work.

But my sub-context was that theres always an evil shadow. When we clock into work, we kind of have to zip off our personalities and not be our real selves. I felt like that was such an archaic way of building community in corporate settings, and that it actually makes people not want to work very hard for you.

With The Fulfillment, the sub-context is how clout culture is a currency, how attention itself has become a currency, just like our laboring bodies are. And now, everybody wants attention even more than they want money. Sometimes even more than they want love. And I think that’s a really fascinating cultural context we’re experiencing right now.

Jane Wade runway looks

Jane Wade runway looks

Hatnim Lee

Yeah, we’re in an attention climate. Even on social media, you don’t get paid for posts — you get paid in likes, in affirmations. The post you make turns into a kind of currency in real life.

Yeah. Oh, that’s so true.

Let’s say I post at whatever store, that store may then offer me a brand deal in the future.

Absolutely. 100%.

So it could possibly create physical currency in the long run as well.

Yeah, that’s so true. I didn’t even think about that, the sub-subplot.

This season you’ve partnered with Nothing, bringing headphones and smartphones into the show itself. Why was Nothing the right partner for this collection?

There could be a lot of correct partners for this type of styling, but Nothing has this retro-futuristic design taste that feels relatable — especially for people like me, born in ’95, who grew up during the tech boom.

It’s all those little details — the flat matte gray, the circular buttons, the Nintendo 64 feel. Those things are visceral for me. I remember them from my brother’s bedroom, watching him play video games, or from the exposed parts of the very first Game Boy. Nothing captures the essence of that feeling in their product design, which is so unique.

My collection and my garments are designed the same way, with this inside-out product development style. For example, take the hem of that skirt: you can see the white binding wrapping around the bottom. That’s actually a tailoring finish you’d normally find inside a men’s suit or jacket. It’s a way to perfectly clean a garment, not done with serging, not done with thread. That exposed bias finish has become a kind of hero code of my brand identity. It’s the flex: The garment is so perfectly considered and immaculately made that you could flip it inside out or wear it right side in.

I think Nothing applies that same idea to their product development. They’re like, “Let us show you the hardware.” They do it through exposed paneling, acetate, or maybe a plastic clear layer — I don’t know the exact fabrication — you can actually see the design of the piece. For me, that felt like: same same.

Nothing Headphones

Nothing Headphones

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The Nothing earbuds will be seen backstage and in the show. Will models actually be listening to music through them, or are they serving more as visual elements?

They’re definitely going to be visual elements, and I’ll give you two parts to this. The first part is that we wanted the models to be listening to their own music on the runway, to create that kind of experiential moment for them.

But as we were casting and telling people that, they started to get nervous. They were like, “Oh no, I’m worried I won’t be able to hear what’s happening around me.” Some of the feedback we got was, “My favorite part is when I’m wearing a really cool piece and the audience gasps as I walk by.”

This happens a lot in styling. For example, we had this concept for The Fulfillment look where she was going to run out in the outfit. But when a model hesitates, that’s a moment to meet them with relief because ultimately, you want the person wearing it to feel their absolute best. They should be super-comfortable, fully activated in the character and the look. If they’re not feeling it, the audience feels that.

So yeah, that’s why we had the idea initially — but then realized, actually, bad idea. We definitely want the models to be able to hear their cues.

We will have the watch timer going during the show, and Zara will have the watch timer on her wrist while walking. So you’ll still see little nuggets of the product in motion but not in the over-ears, just for safety. We want them to feel comfortable.

You’ve collaborated with Nike before, and sneakers are such a big part of fashion today. How does sneaker culture or streetwear influence the way you approach design?

Yeah, that’s a really good question. I think sneakers, trainers, any sort of functional shoe has such a fascinating POV for me because not only is the design supposed to be really considered and unique, but it should also be performance-based. That’s another reason why we’ve collaborated with Salomon in the past.

Even highlighting that shoe was about mountain skiing. Coming from the Pacific Northwest, like I was telling you, that’s deeply integrated into the culture there.

For me, any kind of performance-baked product is so special. With accessories, it’s easier to pick a lane, but with garments, especially with that collection, The Commute I was telling you about, it was about having a suit I could actually move in. Something I could wear if I needed to get on the ground and pull fabric rolls out from under the factory table, or a jacket with removable sleeves if I need to breathe.

Skiwear has so many vents and tactile functions built into the garments, and it makes me ask: why aren’t our everyday clothes designed like this? That’s why I look to brands like Arc’teryx and ACG. That performance-based lens on design feels so special because it’s real. Our garments are made to work for us—not the other way around, where the outfit is so tricky it’s useless.

When you’re creating a collection that reimagines workwear, what goes into your decision-making around fabrics, cuts, and silhouettes?

Workwear is such a broad word, and I think contextually in the industry it usually means pockets, canvas, and durable fabrics.

For me, the entire brand idea is about expanding what “workwear” means. If you work in an office, your workwear might be a suit, but how can that suit have more functional aspects beyond just being beautiful and crispy?

That person might need vents for their armpits if they’re in  having a crazy interview and they’re like hot  Or maybe they need pieces that can be styled in more than one way — like if a pant zips off at the bottom, suddenly you’ve got a new look for nighttime. I think that’s so cool.

For me, workwear just means designing garments that work for us in all of our different work settings.

Jane Wade runway looks

Jane Wade runway looks

Hatnim Lee

Your work often challenges traditional office attire. What do you want people to feel when they put on Jane Wade?

I want people to feel powerful, confident and unique.

I think we’re exiting this era of fashion where everyone was caught up in logo mania, where people would buy something just because it said Gucci, or if no one knew it was Gucci, they didn’t want it. Insert any other major fashion label here.

Now, I think we’re shifting into a space where what’s popular isn’t what’s cool. With the overexposure of social media, everything has a peak and then  reverts to something completely opposite.

Back in the late 2000s and early 2010s, if you didn’t have A-pocket jeans, True Religions, or UGG boots, and instead had Emu boots, you weren’t considered cool. That cycle is at the end and now we’re reemerging into a space where being totally unique is what makes you stylish.

If every single person is wearing the Apple over-ear headphones, the Pro Max 27s then you’re just assimilating in your style choices. We’re moving into a time where having something no one’s ever seen before, that makes people go “Whoa, what is that piece? What brand is that? Where’d you find it?” that’s what’s becoming cool.

Yeah. It’s like standing out to fit in.

I think having your own personal style is so much more important now than just looking expensive or recognizable. That’s why a lot of my pieces can be taken apart and worn in different ways, because when someone interacts with it for the first time, they’re actually designing it themselves in a lot of ways.

How does nothing fit into that?

I think their product totally stands out. Every single time I wear the over-ears, I get stopped at least five times — people come up, touch them, and ask, “What are these? These are so sick.” And I’ve only used the black ones and the silver ones. I personally love that experience when people are like, “Where’d you get that?” because that’s the same conversation I want with my garments. Whenever I’m wearing a Jane Wade piece, people ask, “What are those shorts? These are so sick.”

That’s also the feedback I get from almost every customer. They’ll say, “Honestly, when I first bought it and tried to style it, I thought, is this too much? But then I wore it out, and I got so many compliments that it actually inspired me to buy more unique pieces and lean into my own style.” And I’m the same way. Sometimes it’s just jeans and a tank top, but every time I step out in something special, as long as it’s comfortable, why not?

People stop me all the time asking what I’m wearing, and it reminds me, ugh, I should really try harder with my personal style.

Nothing Headphones

Nothing Headphones

Courtesy of Nothing

Outside of fashion, who are some of your favorite musicians right now?

Kid Cudi just dropped his new album, and he’s honestly one of my all-time favorite artists. I saw him on tour for Man on the Moon, and then again at the Cudi Clubhouse tour a couple of years ago. I’ve been listening to him the entire time he’s been releasing music.

 I love when artists evolve, he has such a special sound.  I love seeing his like mental space evolved through every single one of his albums. From the dark depression, to working through it, to self-discovery, and now to uplifting himself  It’s like so special and unique.

For me, Cudi is a dream person  to either attend a show, [or] collaborate dress.

If you had to describe this SS26 collection in three words, what would they be?

 Time, labor and tactile.