Anthropic says it’s time to end a copyright lawsuit brought by Universal Music Group (UMG) and other publishers over the use of song lyrics to train Claude, its mega-successful artificial intelligence chatbot.

UMG and the other music companies urged a federal judge last month to find that Anthropic’s use of its intellectual property was not “fair use” — a legal tenet that excludes “transformative” uses of a work from copyright protection. Now the AI giant is hitting back, saying in a Monday (April 20) brief of its own that the publishers cannot “meaningfully dispute that training on lyrics (and other copyrighted text) is transformative.”

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According to Anthropic, Claude ingests lyrics alongside trillions of other words to “understand the interrelationships between words and concepts in human language” so it can code software, conduct research and write documents. Anthropic says this is what fair use is all about: turning the publishers’ lyrics into something completely different.

“Claude’s transformative training creates a flexible, general-purpose model that can be used in myriad beneficial ways — the vast majority of which are wholly unrelated to lyrics or music,” write Anthropic’s lawyers.

Anthropic also says the publishers have no evidence that Claude is harming them in the market, which is another element of a judge’s fair use analysis. The AI company points out that the opposite was actually conveyed by UMG’s own chief digital officer, Michael Nash, during the company’s earnings call last month, when he told investors, “Thoughtful analysis will conclude that the impact AI will have on our business will be overwhelmingly net positive.”

In a statement to Billboard on Tuesday (April 21), a rep for the music publishers said, “There is no excuse for Anthropic’s blatant infringement of Publishers’ copyrighted song lyrics.”

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“Anthropic’s recent filing is wrong on the facts and the law in numerous respects, and Publishers look forward to rebutting those arguments and correcting the record when they file their opposition brief,” added the rep.

The question of whether AI training constitutes fair use is an unsettled legal question at the heart of dozens of ongoing copyright cases that have been filed against these booming new tech companies in recent years.

The music industry entered this battle on two fronts: publishers led by UMG sued Anthropic in 2023, and then all three major label groups brought their own copyright cases against AI music generators Suno and Udio in 2024. The Suno and Udio lawsuits also remain ongoing, despite some partial licensing settlements inked at the end of last year.  


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After debuting in Los Angeles last year, Fantastic Reality — a three-day mixed reality 3D live festival featuring independent virtual and VTuber talents — is returning this summer.

The fest will happen at Vermont Hollywood Theater in Los Angeles on July 2-4, with the three nights each featuring a unique lineup.

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Night one will present Fantastic Reality: Found Futures presented by IRIAM, a show headlined by VTubers Matara Kan, kson and Lilypichu, along with the debut of Virtual Signal, a group being billed as the first rock band made up of entirely of virtual talent. The event will also be Matara Kan’s first live concert, Lilypichu’s first live in-person concert as a VTuber and first performances by Virtual Signal and its lead singer Emilya Fell.

Night two of Fantastic Reality will feature Anibash: Crossroads, a co-production with dance music label Asahi Crew, known for their high energy Tokyo-style club rave parties. Day three will be a matinee performance of Doki Doki: Rewind Time, a concert co-produced, curated and headlined by Vtuber Dokibird. Organizers note that the combined cross-platform social reach of the participating talents exceeds 24 million. Additional Fantastic Reality artists will be announced in the coming months.

Tickets for Fantastic Reality are on sale now, with phase two ticket sale with GA and VIP options opening on April 28 at 4 p.m. PT. Tickets are available here.

“Fantastic Reality strives to create community through inspirational experiences showcasing the world’s top virtual talents” Fantastic Reality co-producer Spencer Burnham says in a statement. “We’re thrilled to have internationally-recognized virtual stars Dokibird, Matara Kan, kson, Lilypichu and friends perform with our house band in an awe-inspiring, intimate irl space.”

Fantastic Reality 2026 follows a successful 2025 debut that featured performances by virtual star Ironmouse, along with a host of other VTuber virtual talent.

OVI — who gained international recognition as the first Cuban artist to tap into the corridos tumbados space — has signed an exclusive deal with Universal Music Latino. 

Duarte Figueira, senior vp of A&R at Universal Music Latino, and Daniel Luna, who was recently appointed general manager at the label, were present at the signing.

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“I’m incredibly excited about this stage of my life because I feel that, for the first time, I’m going to have a real team by my side, supporting me through the good and the bad,” OVI expressed in a press statement. “That means the most to me, and I know that with Universal Latino’s new team, my music will reach new heights.”

Born in Ciego de Ávila, Cuba, and currently residing in Miami, the artist and rapper (real name Ovidio Crespo Retureta) kicked off his music career in 2018. He initially tapped into the Música Mexicana realm, where he teamed up with acts such as Natanael Cano, Junior H, Adriel Favela and Snow Tha Product, fusing Cuban rhythms with Regional Mexican. 

OVI’s first Billboard entry was on the Hot Latin Songs chat with the Cano-assisted “Pacas Verdes” in 2020. The following year, he charted on Hot Latin Songs with “Envidioso” in collaboration with Ozuna, while his album Retumban2 peaked at No. 21 on Top Latin Albums. In 2022, “Que Locura” with Gente de Zona charted on Tropical Airplay, and in 2024, “No Drama” with Duki and Lucho SSJ entered the Billboard Argentina Hot 100. 

Throughout his career, OVI has also collaborated with Eladio Carrion, Grupo Firme, Myke Towers and Arcángel, among others. 

OVI is expected to release his forthcoming album, which includes his next single, “Cash,” in collaboration with Almighty, under the new deal with Universal Music Latino. 

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Just about every week on the Billboard charts so far in 2026 has been a big week for country singer-songwriter Ella Langley. But this last one might just be her biggest yet.

On this week’s Billboard 200, dated Apr. 18, Langley debuts at No. 1 with her sophomore LP Dandelion, moving 169,000 units in the set’s first week. Meanwhile, she simultaenously tops the Billboard Hot 100 for a seventh week with her crossover smash “Choosin’ Texas,” while also hitting the top five with her follow-up hit “Be Her” (8-4 this week), and notching 15 songs total from Dandelion on the chart.

How do these returns compare to our expectations? And does this performance confirm her as a newly minted pop star? Billboard staffers answer these questions and more below.

1. Dandelion debuts atop the Billboard 200 with 169,000 first-week units. Are those numbers better, worse or about what you expected for its first-week returns?  

Kyle Denis: This is right on par, if not better than what I was expecting for Dandelion’s first week. With her sophomore album debuting comfortably in the six-figure range, Ella’s has proven she can move albums as well as singles.  

Lyndsey Havens: A bit better and a bit expected at the same time. Having been well aware that this album would be a huge win for Ella, given the performance of early singles and continued Hot 100 dominance of “Choosin’ Texas,” this first-week number feels right on target. Yet, I’m also still a bit surprised by it; despite Ella’s years of hard work and patience for this moment, it does feel like a bit of a whirlwind right now. And I imagine for those who haven’t been paying attention, this feels like a total shock. 

Melinda Newman: They are about what I thought they would, be given her growing crossover popularity. It’s the largest opening week for a woman this year and the largest opening week for a country artist, topping first week numbers this year from Megan Moroney, Zach Bryan and Luke Combs. She is really drawing from pop fans, probably almost as much as country fans at this point.

Andrew Unterberger: Pretty much exactly what I expected — a little lower or a little higher wouldn’t have shocked me either. She’s rapidly approaching the point where it’s tough to really be that surprised by any commercial achievement of hers.

Jessica Nicholson: That is about what I expected. Those are huge numbers and recognize how her song “Choosin’ Texas” has dominated the Hot 100 for seven weeks, in addition to seeing more songs from her album Dandelion proliferate the chart.

2. “Choosin’ Texas” simultaneously enjoys its seventh week atop the Hot 100, while “Be Her” becomes her second top five hit by jumping No. 8-4. Do you think the latter will eventually follow “Texas” to the chart’s top spot?  

Kyle Denis: It’s certainly possible! I wouldn’t be surprised if Ella simultaneously held the top two spots on the Hot 100 in the coming weeks. As summer draws nearer and rumored new albums from the likes of Drake and Ariana Grande potentially materialize, “Be Her” could have a difficult journey to No. 1 — but it’s not out of the question. 

Lyndsey Havens: I genuinely hope so. I love “Be Her,” from its sultry start to the catchy (and yes, TikTok-primed) hand claps. And look, the concept isn’t new — there’s a whole library of songs about a woman feeling envious of another, including Kelsea Ballerini’s latest “Emerald City” But here, Ella take’s it to the point of wanting to be her. It’s a song that fits perfectly on Dandelion and suits Ella’s voice and own storyline right now, and I do think it could climb to No. 1 with the right push.

Melinda Newman: Yes. I think there’s something about Langley that is undeniable right now. People are very curious about her and she hasn’t been overexposed. This is a sweet time for her where she can do no wrong. I don’t think it will be No. 1 for as long as “Choosin’ Texas” though. It doesn’t have the same appeal — but how incredible would it be if it replaces “Choosin’ Texas” at No. 1? 

Jessica Nicholson: That is a large jump, but Olivia Dean’s “Man I Need” is also holding strong and seems destined to take the pinnacle at some point, while Ella has the powerful Morgan Wallen collab coming this week.

Andrew Unterberger: I’d say probably not — but only because it’s about to get really crowded at the top of the Hot 100, including with another song of her own devising. Getting to the top five is a huge, huge win for “Be Her” and Langley in general regardless.

3. While Langley is enjoying her wins for Dandelion and its hits, she’s already moving onto a new single, with an upcoming duet with Morgan Wallen — unveiled live over the weekend — expected to be released this Friday. Does the timing of that now-much-anticipated collaboration make sense to you, or would you have waited more than two weeks after the full album to drop such a near-guaranteed smash?  

Kyle Denis: Sure, she could have waited — but why not strike while the iron is hot? The country can’t get enough of Ella right now. She also has a successful history with male-female duets, and there’s no such song on Dandelion, meaning she’s offering the marketplace another style of song and not just a throwaway loosie. More importantly, this is about positioning. Wallen is undisputably the current King of Country, and him tapping Ella as his first female country duet partner — and second female collaborator overall, following Tate McRae last year — solidifies her crown as country’s current Queen.  

Lyndsey Havens: Either way, it seems like a guaranteed win. Morgan and now Ella have played a huge role in rewriting country music’s chart records of late, so putting them together at any time does seem like a guaranteed smash. That said, I don’t think it would have hurt to wait a bit and give Dandelion just a bit more room to live and breath on its own.

Melinda Newman: It is rare for country to have a genuine “event record” and this is it. Given that they are on tour together, but only for a handful of dates, it makes sense to release it now and get the biggest bang for the buck they can while they can do it live. It’s also unclear whose album it will be on since it’s not on Dandelion, so it creates excitement in terms of: Will it be on a deluxe edition of Dandelion, or on Wallen’s next album — or will it be a stand-alone like the Chris Stapleton/Miranda Lambert duet? 

Jessica Nicholson: Ideally, I would have waited a bit to give all the songs on the album more breathing room — but the release also closely follows Ella’s first night opening for Wallen’s current Still the Problem Tour, so the timing for that makes sense.

Andrew Unterberger: My instinct is to say she could have waited here, let Dandelion enjoy a few weeks of blockbuster success on its own merits, and then maybe a month or so down the line, hit ’em with the Wallen collab and let ’em know you’re not going anywhere anytime soon. But doing it just two weeks after the album release — and announcing it with a live duet just one week after — is such a power move I can’t really hate on it, either. This is your moment, why not do whatever you can to make it as big as possible?

4. Does the first week performance of Dandelion combined with the extended success of “Choosin’ Texas” and the album’s other singles — and now an incoming teamup with the biggest artist in country — confirm Langley as a bonafide pop star to you, or do you still need to see more from her before giving her that status?  

Kyle Denis: In the sense that country is pop right now, yes. But I’d like to see her plastered across commercials, showing with high billing on all-genre festival lineups and playing gigs like SNL before I truly regard her as a “bonafide pop star.” 

Lyndsey Havens: I lean on the more giving side with that title, but I do think she’s totally earned it.  Let’s not forget, she’s already had her long-lasting breakout moment with Riley Green on “You Look Like You Love Me.” I think there were some who thought that would be the peak, but it was always just setting Ella up for her own time to shine — and it certainly feels like that time has come. I don’t think it will pass anytime soon.

Melinda Newman: Pop star or country star? We toss star around “star” too lightly and soon we’ll be calling her a superstar. I would still call her a rising star. She’s had three No. 1s on Country Airplay and one No. 1 on the Hot 100. It’s too soon to tell if she’s a genuine pop sensation or she’s a country singer who has one massive pop hit. I need to see more from her, but her promise is undeniable and it’s really exciting to watch her rise and how far she’s going to go.

Jessica Nicholson: She’s definitely one of the fastest-rising artists out there right now. Country music has regularly dominated the all-genre charts for a few years now, and the songs on her new album are strong, so she’s definitely cemented herself as an artist who is here to stay.

Andrew Unterberger: It’s tough to call someone a pop star when they’ve never, say, played the VMAs, or appeared at a non-genre music festival, or any number of the usual moves that signify an artist traveling the path to pop stardom. But the fervor around Ella Langley is so insane right now it might just not matter. We are very possibly headed towards a Hot 100 in a couple weeks’ time in which she has three of the top five songs — something only a handful of other artists have ever done in the chart’s history. Are we really going to say that’s not a pop star?

5. Make a prediction: How many total weeks will “Choosin’ Texas” spend atop the Hot 100? 

Kyle Denis: I think 10-11 weeks, but I’d keep my eye on Olivia Dean’s “So Easy (To Fall In Love)” and my ear to the streets regarding yet-to-be-announced high-profile releases. 

Lyndsey Havens: I’m rooting for 19 weeks. That will force a tie with “Old Town Road,” and fall just a few weeks behind the reigning queen, Mariah Carey, with her eternal holiday hit. Seems like a nice place to land.

Melinda Newman: I’m going for an even 10, though, as we pointed out before, “Be Her” could knock “Choosin’ Texas” out — as could her duet with Wallen — so “Choosin’ Texas” may be a victim of her own success, which would not be a bad thing at all!

Jessica Nicholson: I would guess 9-10 total.

Andrew Unterberger: I’ll say 12 total. But more would not surprise me in the slightest.

 


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Prince’s death in 2016 set off waves of grief at the passing of a music icon. It also set in motion complex legal battles that took years to resolve and have never fully ended.

The star, who died of a fentanyl overdose ten years ago Tuesday (April 21), was legendary for his attention to detail — in his image, his music and his intellectual property. He spent years battling with Warner Bros. over his record deals, closely policed his copyrights in the early days of YouTube, and later pulled his music from Spotify and other streamers over gripes about fair compensation.

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But owing to his sudden passing, that same meticulous artist also died without any sort of will, sparking a seemingly endless legal process to settle his estate. “It[‘s] a real mess that he left behind,” a legal expert told the Associated Press at the time. “I find it so hard to believe. How can there not be a will?”

The stakes were high. When he died, Prince left behind a sprawling set of property, including not just his famous Paisley Park mansion and other physical property, but also a prolific music catalog that had been bolstered in 2014 when Warner Bros. returned his masters for iconic albums like Purple Rain and 1999.

Because Prince had no children or spouse, the first challenge was to decide who would even be his heirs. The court eventually settled on his siblings, including sister Tyka Nelson and five half-siblings: Sharon, Norrine, and John R. Nelson; Omarr Baker; and Alfred Jackson. A bank, Comerica Bank & Trust, was named as a court-appointed administrator, handling the estate’s affairs while the probate case was litigated.

Three of the siblings later sold all or most of their shares to Primary Wave, giving that industry heavyweight control over half of the estate’s fate. The three others allied themselves with longtime Prince advisors L. Londell McMillan and Charles Spicer, who were themselves granted control of an undisclosed stake of the estate.

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After years of litigation, the case finally moved toward resolution in January 2022, when the heirs reached a deal with the Internal Revenue Service to set a final tax valuation of $156 million. The court then split the estate evenly in two, with Primary Wave controlling an entity called Prince Oat Holdings LLC and the McMillan-Spicer group controlling another called Prince Legacy LLC. The two groups have since operated under an agreement dictating how they administer his music and other jointly-held assets.

The final discharge of the probate case ended the legal battle over the future of the estate, which the heirs said would allow them to “protect and grow Prince’s incomparable legacy.” But it didn’t end the estate’s legal battles.

In 2024, McMillan and Spicer filed a lawsuit claiming heirs Sharon and Norrine Nelson were trying to force them out and seize control of Prince Legacy, even though they were “simply not capable” of running the estate: “They lack any business and management experience, have no experience in the music and entertainment industries, and have no experience negotiating and managing high-level deals,” McMillan and Spicer wrote at the time.

McMillan and Spicer largely won the dispute a few months later, when a judge ruled that the heirs had vested the two advisors with “broad and exclusive” powers and could not now amend the agreement simply because they “came to regret this decision.” But some elements of the case remain pending and await more litigation in Delaware court.

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Later in 2024, Primary Wave and Prince Legacy flexed their legal muscle to get Netflix to cancel a nine-part documentary by filmmaker Ezra Edelman that had been greenlit years earlier, citing “dramatic” inaccuracies and “sensationalized” claims.

Netflix formally pulled the plug in early 2025 and announced an estate-sanctioned replacement documentary, prompting Edelman to blast the move as a “joke.” He said nobody would see his film because he didn’t “feel like getting sued,” but that nothing in it had been inaccurate: “I can’t get past this — the short-sightedness of a group of people whose interest is their own bottom line.”

Then last year, the estate was sued by the singer Apollonia, a Prince protegee who claimed the estate had “embarked on an aggressive campaign” to cancel her trademark registrations to her name. She claimed that after Prince’s death, his estate had been on a mission to “acquire all things related to Prince even though it has no legal right to do so.”

In its own court filings, the estate said it had never asked her to change her name, but that it had rightly tried to revoke trademarks she had obtained during the “chaotic period” after his passing, when certain people secured trademarks that “rightfully belonged to Prince.” The case ended in a confidential settlement last month.


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Rihanna keeps some pretty potent weed on her, and this particular strain of kush has some unusual side effects, according to Jonah Hill.

As part of Rih’s W magazine cover, the Moneyball actor was asked about his favorite Rihanna memory, and he had quite the story queued up tied to their time spent on set together for 2013’s This Is the End movie.

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Hill ended up seeing Rihanna out when it was his birthday and joined the blunt rotation with a friend, which had some unexpected consequences for a friend.

“After we shot This Is the End, I ran into her at a bar, and it was my birthday,” he said of Rihanna. “She had a joint and was generous enough to share with my friends, and one of my friends got so stoned that she pooped her pants. Rihanna has that ‘make your friends sh– their pants’ weed.”

Back in 2013, Rihanna explained to Elle UK that she had no issue posting herself smoking weed to social media because she wanted her IG account to be an accurate representation of her life at that moment.

“I Instagram everything about my life. Whether it’s smoking pot, in a strip club, reading a Bible verse — how crazy, I know,” she said. “That’s why I’m posting pictures of myself smoking pot, to tell the truth about myself. I’ve got so much to think about, why bring all this extra sh– by being dishonest?”

Outside of her cameo as herself in This Is the End, Rihanna’s stacked a handful of film and show roles in Hollywood over the years, making appearances in Ocean’s Eight, Annie, Guava Island alongside Donald Glover, Bates Motel and Smurfs.

Rihanna graced the cover of W magazine with her daughter, Rocki. Her partner A$AP Rocky gushed about Rih’s evolution as a mother, but clarified that she’s “always been magic.”

“That certainly changes you,” Rocky said. “But this woman has always been magic. Philosophically, the way she operates is on another level. She is the most charming and genuine person on Earth. Her energy is unmatched — one of a kind. I just adore her.”

Madonna instantly made headlines when she joined Sabrina Carpenter at Coachella on Friday, and she remained the talk of the town after she revealed Monday that her stage costume went missing following the performance. Now, police have an update on what might have happened.

On Tuesday (April 21), Indio, Calif., police told ABC News that a representative for the Queen of Pop filed a missing property report for two bags of clothing and jewelry — both of which were last seen on a golf cart traveling the Coachella festival grounds. Staffers tasked with driving the golf cart to a larger bus realized the bags were missing upon their arrival at a hotel.

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According to the police’s preliminary investigation, the staff drove the cart down a dark, bumpy road, presenting the likely possibility that the bags simply fell off the back of the cart. As per the police report, “There is no evidence to suggest the bags were intentionally stolen.” At press time, there is no record of the bags being turned in. Anyone who comes across the items is encouraged to return them to 46800 Jackson St. in Indio, California, or contact the police department at 760-391-4057.

Madge’s surprise appearance during Carpenter’s headlining set celebrated two major milestones: the 20-year anniversary of Madonna’s iconic 2006 Coachella dance tent set and the release of her new single “I Feel So Free.” The dancefloor-ready single, which finds Confessions on a Dance Floor producer Stuart Price joining forces with Grammy-nominated electronic music producer Arca, serves as the lead single from Confessions II, which arrives July 3 as the official sequel to her 2005 LP.

Notably, Madonna did not perform “I Feel So Free,” opting instead to sing alongside Carpenter on classics such as “Vogue” and “Like a Prayer,” as well as a preview of their upcoming Confessions II duet “Bring Your Love.” While Carpenter dazzled in her Man’s Best Friend aesthetic, Madonna strutted up and down the stage donning a lavender corset bodysuit, lacy knee-high purple stockings, lavender gloves and a pair of oversized sunglasses — most of which were pulled straight from her 2006 Coachella stage outfit.

Madonna celebrated her Friday night performance in the same Instagram message in which she revealed that her items had gone missing, writing, “These aren’t just clothes, they are part of my history. Other archival items from the same era went missing as well. I’m hoping and praying that some kind soul will find these items and reach out to my team. I’m offering a reward for their safe return. Thank you with all my heart.”

Representatives for Madonna did not immediately return Billboard’s request for comment.

Luis Fonsi is back at No. 1 on Billboard’s Latin Airplay chart, as “Cambiaré,’ with Feid, takes over the list dated April 25. This marks Luis Fonsi’s first win since 2021, while Feid previously led the chart last November.

“I just feel so grateful for the love and support,” Luis Fonsi tells Billboard. “It’s a song that’s a bit different from what I usually do but it celebrates our rhythm and our culture. That means everything to me. Gracias Feid for adding your undeniable magic to ‘Cambiaré.’ This is a special No. 1!”

“Cambiaré” surges 8-1 on the overall Latin radio ranking following a 34% growth in audience impressions, to 8.8 million, earned in the United States for the tracking week of April 10-16, according to Luminate.

The song was released Jan. 21 via Universal Music Latino/UMLE and becomes the second salsa track to claim the No. 1 spot on Latin Airplay chart in 2026. “Cambiaré” sends Marc Anthony and Nathy Peluso’s “Como En El Idilio” to No. 2. The latter, the first salsa to coronate the chart this year, logged 8.3 million impressions, a 13% decline from the week prior. Among tropical chart-toppers, Romeo Santos and Prince Royce’s bachata, “Lokita Por Mí,” ruled for two weeks between January and March, adding to its prior one-week reign back in December, for a total of three weeks in charge.

With “Cambiaré,” Fonsi secures his 14th No. 1 on Latin Airplay, following his one-week stint atop the list through “Bésame,” with Myke Towers, in Nov. 2021. Feid, meanwhile, adds his 13th No. 1.

Elsewhere, the song, composed by Fonsi, Feid, Andrés Torres and Mauricio Rengifo, ascends 4-1 on Tropical Airplay. Torres and Rengifo, the producers of “Despacito,” joined Marcos Sánchez on the production.

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Turns out Joe Jackson could moonwalk too — or at least the actor who plays him can.

Oscar-nominated actor Colman Domingo appears on The Jennifer Hudson Show on Wednesday (April 22) alongside actors Jaafar Jackson and Juliano Valdi to talk about their new Michael Jackson biopic Michael. In a sit-down interview with Hudson, the three movie stars talk about preparing for their roles, sharing what they learned about Michael Jackson in the process and, in a special moment, showing off a few of their best MJ dance moves.

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“I was given a lot of notes, private notes of Michael’s, his journaling,” shares Jaafar, who not only plays the role of Michael Jackson in the film, but is also Michael’s real-life nephew. “And that really opened up my mind to feel how he was feeling in a lot of those moments.”

Jaafar also spoke about how “deeply sensitive” Michael was toward the needs of others around the world and how he wanted to use his music to bring people together.

Valdi, who plays young Michael in the film, echoed a similar sentiment about the late King of Pop. “Something that surprised me, just knowing how hard Michael worked, even at a young age,” Valdi says. “He would wake up early or stay up really late just to perfect his singing and dancing.”

Domingo, who took on the role of Michael’s father Joe Jackson in the movie, expressed his pride toward his two fellow actors and what it was like when he first began working with them.

“Literally the moment I went out there, I felt very protective because I saw such a high level of talent and heart,” Domingo says of the first time he saw Jaafar and Valdi on set performing. “And I still feel that way.”

After speaking with the actors about working with one another, Hudson requested to see Valdi’s moonwalk. Of course he obliged, impressing Hudson and the audience.

“This one’s gonna be playing huge concerts in like five minutes. Huge concerts, just watch,” Domingo says after Valdi sits back down.

After a little more heartfelt conversation amongst the group, Hudson had one more question for Domingo specifically: “Can you moonwalk?”

“My moonwalk is not as live,” Domingo says, getting up and doing the dance and tossing in a few more of Michael’s famous moves.

Michael will be released in theaters on Friday. Watch Colman Domingo, Jaafar Jackson and Juliano Valdi’s interview on The Jennifer Hudson Show before it premieres in full on Wednesday below.