KATSEYE gave their EYEKONS fan group plenty to look forward to on Thursday (April) when the HYBE K-pop girl group dropped their beat crazy new single, “Pink Up.” In addition to being a fresh track for the now five-piece crew to perform at their upcoming Coachella Festival debut this weekend, the song is the first one without OG member Manon Bannerman, who recently went on temporary hiatus to “focus on her health and well-being.”
“One day, soon, the world’s gonna end/ I’m gonna make out with my new bestest friends/ I wanna live large, right before it all burns down/ Up, up, pinky up/ Go hard like we’re robbin’ the Louvre/ We Mona Lisa with a cute attitude/ I wanna get high right before we’re in the ground,” members Daniela Avanzini and Megan Skiendiel sing on the hyper pop song’s first chorus in the video in which the group show off their fierce nail art while, naturally, putting those pinkies up to take a sip of tea.
“Ooh, we’re screaming from cloud nine/ No one can touch us if they tried/ Ooh, but it’s a state of mind/ I-I-I-I bet it goes like this/ It’s a state of mind/ We’re screaming from cloud nine,” they all sing defiantly before dipping into the “Pin-pinky up” chorus on the tune that at points sounds like a video game soundtrack cranked up to double speed.
“Pinky Up” was written by Justin Tranter (Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande) and the group began teasing it on March 30 via a cryptic video in which the Mona Lisa brings a steaming cup of tea up to her mouth, with her little finger extended just so. The followed it up the next day with another head-scratcher with no taste of the music in which a KATSEYE-themed claw machine pulls a sword out of a pile of jewelry-wearing stuffed animals, revealing the release date for the single.
All those images show up in the video, with the visual keeping that vibe going, as the women are surrounded by a forest of plushies and lounge around in their usual colorful, outré outfits, which include glittery knee-high boots for a minibike burn-out in an office and patterned mini skirts for a sweaty dance party. Near the end, they slip into matching shaggy blonde wigs and sip some more in a bland hotel ballroom while wearing clear white smocks with furry accents over glittery blue bodysuits.
“Pinky Up” dropped on the eve of KATSEYE’s Coachella debut on Friday (April 10), which will be their latest show without Bannerman, following gigs at Lollapalooza Argentina and Lollapalooza Chile last month.
The group, kind of, discussed their interpersonal dynamics in a new NYLON cover story that took place before Manon announced her leave-taking. “Being in a group, it’s just about good communication and setting good boundaries and building a friendship, but also work relationship, and always remembering that it’s a shared goal that we have,” Manon told the magazine, which noted that current members Yoonchae Jeung, Sophia Laforteza, Daniela Avanzini, Lara Raj and Megan Skiendiel declined to answer additional questions about Manon’s hiatus when the news broke of after the initial interview was completed.
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The dispute over the travel permit for the daughter shared by Argentine urban music star Cazzu and regional Mexican idol Christian Nodal has put a widespread issue on the legislative agendas of both countries, inspiring a legislative initiative aimed at guaranteeing children’s right to mobility in cases of parental abandonment.
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In Mexico, the proposal, known as “Ley Cazzu” (Cazzu Law), takes its name from the stage name of Latin trap singer Julieta Cazzucheli and is being promoted by Michoacán state legislator Sandra Arreola Ruiz, from the Partido Verde Ecologista (Green Party).
According to a statement from the Michoacán Congress released on March, the singer’s case highlighted the difficulties women in Mexico face when trying “to carry out essential procedures for their children, such as obtaining passports or travel permits. The law requires the father’s authorization, even when he is not involved in the child’s upbringing or fulfilling his parental obligations.”
The legislative proposal will be presented this Thursday (April 9) before the plenary session of Mexico’s Chamber of Deputies. It will eventually be analyzed by a special commission, as it involves an initiative to amend Article 4 of the Mexican Constitution to prioritize the best interests of children.
“Cazzu brought visibility to this serious issue because behind the media coverage, there are hundreds of stories of minors suffering due to absent and irresponsible fathers,” Arreola Ruiz tells Billboard Español. “This is the situation we want to change.”
In September 2025, Cazzu — also known as “La Jefa” (The Boss) — revealed on the podcast Se Regalan Dudas that at one point she needed a travel permit from Nodal, from whom she separated in 2024, for their daughter Inti to leave Argentina, the country where mother and daughter reside. However, the request was denied.
In October last year, Nodal’s legal defense issued a statement denying that the permits regarding the child’s international travels had been “unilaterally denied.” “They have never been refused,” the statement said, claiming that the requests were allegedly made without adequate notice. The lawyer, César Muñoz, made these assertions in the statement.
Billboard Español reached out to representatives for Cazzu and Nodal but had not received a response at press time.
“This is a story that brings attention to a social issue impacting Mexico but also the broader region, where we unfortunately have a culture of paternal abandonment,” Arreola Ruiz adds, adding that in Mexico more than 1.3 million women are mothers, many of them single, and over 410,000 men are child support debtors.
The “Cazzu Law” was also featured on Change.org — the world’s largest platform for citizen mobilization and digital petitions — where, at the time of this publication, nearly 38,000 people had supported the cause.
In Argentina, a similar bill was drafted by the group Abogadas Feministas AMBA and bears the signature of senator Carlos Linares. The initiative seeks to amend an article in the Civil and Commercial Code to allow for the provisional suspension of parental responsibility in cases of serious non-compliance. It aims to address a complex problem: that of parents who, despite failing to fulfill their obligations, retain decision-making power over their children’s lives, according to the newspaper El Clarín.
The publication says that 16% of households in Argentina are single-parent homes, and more than eight in ten of these are led by women. Over 3 million children and adolescents in Argentina live in such households.
Arreola Ruiz acknowledges that her legislative proposal has faced criticism for carrying the name of an artist who is not Mexican. “But it is Cazzu, through her regional influence, who has given voice to and highlighted what many women experience, both in and out of the spotlight,” she says.
After being presented before the plenary session of Mexico’s Chamber of Deputies on Thursday, the Cazzu Law bill will be analyzed by the Constitutional Affairs Committee. If admitted, a ruling will be prepared. Once the proposal reaches this stage, it will be discussed and voted on in the plenary session. If approved, it will move to the Mexican Senate and subsequently require approval from the local legislatures of Mexico’s 32 states before it can be officially enacted.
“The fact that a legislative initiative is presented and reaches the plenary session of the Chamber of Deputies so quickly speaks to the significant visibility that Cazzu’s case has,” Arreola Ruiz remarks. “The best outcome would be for a judge to have the legal tools to resolve these cases as quickly and effectively as possible.”
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Melanie Martinez’s Hades is No. 1 on Billboard‘s Top Rock & Alternative Albums chart dated April 11, bowing atop the latest survey with 84,000 equivalent album units earned in the United States in the week ending April 2, according to Luminate.
Of that sum, 63,000 units are via album sales, including 28,000 from the vinyl configuration, which begets a No. 2 start on the Vinyl Albums tally, behind Ye’s (formerly Kanye West) Bully (32,000).
Martinez previously reigned on Top Rock & Alternative Albums with Portals, which led for two weeks in 2023.
Additionally, Hades debuts at No. 1 on Top Alternative Albums, Martinez’s fourth No. 1, following reigns for Cry Baby (2015) and K-12 (2019) in addition to the aforementioned Portals and Hades.
Martinez moves into a four-way tie alongside Billie Eilish, Lorde and Paramore for the most No. 1s on Top Alternative Albums by women or women-led acts since the chart’s 2007 inception. Only two such acts have more: Lana Del Rey (seven, also the top mark among any act) and Florence + The Machine (five).
Hades concurrently starts at No. 3 on the all-genre Billboard 200, her third time in the chart’s top three; Portals remains her best via its No. 2 bow.
Eight songs from Hades appear on the April 11-dated Hot Rock & Alternative Songs chart, led by “Possession,” which re-enters at No. 33 (after premiering at No. 11 in February). It earned 1.8 million official U.S. streams. The album’s top debut of the week, meanwhile, belongs to “Uncanny Valley” (No. 37; 1.6 million streams).
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London’s LIDO festival has been forced to cancel two of its scheduled three days, dealing another blow to the capital’s music scene.
The announcement made on Thursday (April 9) comes just days after Wireless Festival was scrapped owing to Ye, formerly known as Kanye West, being banned from entering the U.K. on April 7. The Home Office stated that Ye’s past antisemitic and pro-Nazi comments meant that his presence was “not in the public good.” That move came after a number of high-profile politicians criticized the booking and sponsors withdrew from the event.
LIDO was due to take place at London’s Victoria Park on June 12-14. In a statement posted to its social media profile, the festival announced that the days headlined by CMAT and Bombay Bicycle Club would be canceled. The day headlined by Maribou State will be moved to Aug. 31.
The festival said that the cancellation was to “protect park ground conditions” at Victoria Park which hosted LIDO and All Points East, both promoted by AEG, in 2025. The latter was besieged by “well-reported dust issues” due to last summer’s drought.
“Protecting the condition of Victoria Park is of paramount importance to LIDO and to London Borough of Tower Hamlets,” the festival wrote, adding that an “extensive reseeding and improvement programme” is being implemented to protect the land.
However the U.K.’s recent winter — one of the wettest in recent history — has meant that advisors “recommended giving these newly improved areas a little more time before starting the festival programme.” The park is open to local residents and the statement adds that the cancellation “ensures the progress made is protected and continues to benefit the community throughout the spring and early summer.”
CMAT was due to perform on June 12 alongside Father John Misty and Sharon Van Etten, while Bombay Bicycle Club and Metronomy were due to take place on June 14. The festival has announced that neither can be rescheduled and therefore will be canceled. Ticket holders will receive a full refund.
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Ziggy Marley is staying true to himself and looking toward the bright side.
In this episode of Billboard‘s Take Us Out, Ziggy Marley brings host Tetris Kelly to Crossroads, a cozy vegan restaurant in Los Angeles for healthy bites and discourse. Over their meal, the duo talk about Marley’s upcoming album, collecting vinyl and being vulnerable in music. Of course, being that the musician picked a vegan restaurant, Kelly starts the conversation by asking how long Marley has followed the vegan diet.
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“I’m only vegan part-time,” Marley jokes. “I’m healthy all the time, but I’m vegan part-time.”
Once his vegan status is established, the two dive into the music chat. Marley is releasing his new album, Brightside, in an unconventional way. The LP will be released exclusively as physical copies on on Record Store Day, April 18, and will not be available digitally until May 1. He attributes his decision to release his album this way to seeing how music was made when he was growing up, especially with his father, the late legend Bob Marley.
“I grew up around seeing records being manufactured, vinyl from the conception to the final product,” Marley explains. “That process and the quality and the discipline that is behind it. So I wanted to kind of push this record in that way.”
He says that this approach is different from how people do music today. Today, Marley says, music is cheaper, easier and faster to make. He wanted to make Brightside “the slow way.”
Kelly then asks Marley, an avid vinyl collector, what the most important record in his collection is.
“The most important vinyl is the first vinyl I bought,” Marley says before naming an album that was surely many collectors’ first: Thriller. “The first time I had my own money, then I was like, ‘Yeah, man, I’m going to the record store and buy a record.’”
The conversation then turns toward the themes that Marley explores in Brightside, with a focus on the album being his most personal to date. Marley shares why he wanted to be honest in this project and what inspired him to write the new songs on it. One inspiration came from being on set for his father’s 2024 biopic, Bob Marley: One Love, which he produced.
“[I was] also getting some sparks of creativity, you know, being on a movie set,” Marley says. He then shares that he crafted the deeply personal songs on the album over time, but there was one day in particular during which he really took a look inside and tried to understand why some of the music he was writing was sad.
“One day I was really feeling like s–t and I was like, ‘Why do I let the world trouble me?’” he shares. “The state of the world is oppressive. And that is the battle really. The battle is how we free our mind from that oppression.”
To hear Marley talk about the making of Brightside, his favorite vegan dishes at a Los Angeles institution and his thoughts on F1, watch the full Take Us Out above.
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The members of BTS will probably never want to have a take two of their Hot Ones experience, simply because of how painfully hot Sean Evans’ lineup of spicy wings was.
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RM, j-hope, Jin, SUGA, V, Jung Kook and Jimin all appeared on the episode that arrived Thursday (April 9), making show history as the most amount of people to partake in the series at once. That also means they consumed the most wings of any episode ever, with host Sean Evans noting in the initial announcement that BTS would be guesting, “We’ve got seven chairs, seven sets of wings. Including me, that is 80 wings on the table, a Hot Ones record.”
And with all seven of them taking part, it was easier than ever to see how everyone reacts to the so-called “wings of death” in different ways. RM, for instance, broke out into a visible full-body sweat less than halfway through, leading his bandmates to tease him. “Your body crying,” Jung Kook said. Later, V and Jimin dabbed the band leader with napkins, even though RM insisted, “What’s up, guys? Nothing’s wrong. I’m fine.”
J-hope, on the other hand, inexplicably started busting a groove when the wings got too hot — “Dance it out,” Evans told him — while Jin simply stuck his tongue out and repeatedly shouted, “Ah!” SUGA was characteristically stoic throughout, though he did confess toward the end, “I’m feeling dizzy.”
Jimin was perhaps the most optimistic of the bunch as the wings became more and more deathly. “Come on, wing!” he would cheer before every new bite, keeping everyone’s spirits high. Jung Kook handled the heat well, but got overstimulated by the end, hilariously telling everyone around him to shut up — even though no one was talking.
“This is illegal,” RM, with perspiration dripping down the sides of his face, told Evans. “It should be prohibited by the law.”
The episode dropped on the same day that BTS kicked off its sprawling world tour with a show-stopping performance at Goyang Stadium in South Korea. After two more shows at the venue, the band will travel through North America, Europe, Latin America and more parts of Asia on the year-long trek.
On Hot Ones, BTS spoke about the tour as well as Jin’s love of fishing, SUGA’s past as an “underground rapper” and the band’s favorite anime songs. They also explained how they went about narrowing down the 100-plus tracks they recorded for Billboard 200-topping new album ARIRANG, with V noting, “We each had a lot of opinions.”
“To put it simply, we all gathered in one place and listened to all the songs, from track No. 1 to track 100,” Jung Kook said. “We’d discuss while we listened. ‘How is this?’ or ’Thoughts on this.’ Almost in a pure fashion.”
“And if I remember correctly, we had a point-scoring system,” V added.
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Ziggy Marley sits down with Billboard at his favorite vegan spot, Crossroads Kitchen in L.A., for a real conversation about his new album, Brightside. He discusses how he got into the making of the album, why he recorded entirely in 432 Hz, and how a song about his legendary father, Bob Marley, found its way onto the project. Ziggy opens up about navigating a heavy world while choosing to stay on the bright side, his thoughts on racism and leadership, and why he thinks women should run every country on Earth.
Ziggy Marley: Let women take leadership. Let women be the leader of every country on Earth. I don’t see any other way.
Tetris Kelly:But you’re so right — the truth is right there.
We have some serious things to talk about still, but it doesn’t matter, we’re still living on the bright side, you know?
Ziggy, my friend!
My man, my man. Bless, yes.
It is so good to see you again.
Blessings.
Thank you. So where have you brought me to?
Crossroads Vegan.
All right.
Vegan food.
Let’s eat this. Let’s do it. Ziggy, thanks for bringing me here, because I’ve heard this is your spot. So tell me, why Crossroads? What do you love about this place?
When you’re feeling that vegan mood, like, you know, you want some real food, good food, light food, this is where I would come. This is the only place I know.
How long have you been vegan? Has this been, like, a long time?
No, I’m a vegan part-time.
Ah, part-time? When you think about it. When you want to be healthy.
No, I’m healthy all the time. But I’m vegan part-time. Sometime, ’cause sometime you really have to change up what’s going on inside of your body. And vegan is the most natural way for you to do it. We were really meant for it. A vegetarian diet.
So I gotta take that from you now. I’m gonna be like, “I’m part-time vegan.”
Yeah, you gotta be.
That’s a nice way to put it. Now let’s talk about this new music, man — Brightside. I love that you’re putting the album out on Record Store Day, and performing, and then also doing the digital release later. Why was that important to you?
Well, I have an affinity to how I saw music being made when I was younger, from my father’s days and his generation. I grew up around that. I grew up around seeing records being manufactured — vinyl from the conception to the final product. That process, and the quality and the discipline that is behind it.
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Just weeks after Seeker Music Group announced it had secured $267 million through an asset-backed security to fund catalog acquisitions, the company tells Billboard it has acquired the masters and publishing catalog of synth-pop group Nu Shooz, which scored a No. 3 hit on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1986 with its single “I Can’t Wait.”
Formed in Portland, Ore., by guitarist John Smith and vocalist/percussionist Valerie Day, Nu Shooz scored a breakthrough in the mid-’80s with the smash single, which was included on the group’s RIAA Gold-certified 1986 album Poolside, released by Atlantic Records. The duo’s follow-up single, “Point of No Return,” peaked at No. 28 on the Hot 100. Nu Shooz was also nominated for best new artist at the 1987 Grammys.
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With the deal, Nu Shooz joins a portfolio of music rights that includes music by Christopher Cross, Joan Jett, Run the Jewels, Charlotte Caffey of The Go-Gos and Jon Bellion.
“Nu Shooz defined an era with one of the most groundbreaking sounds of the ’80s,” said Evan Bogart, CEO of Seeker Music, in a statement. “‘I Can’t Wait’ still feels fresh and alive today, and we are beyond excited to breathe new life into these legendary synth-pop hits. Honoring the DNA of seminal global hits and extending their legacy with future generations is what Seeker was built for.”
Day added, “We’re excited to join forces with the team at Seeker. Their deep love of music drives everything they do, and with their creative vision, the possibilities are endless. We know the Nu Shooz legacy is in good hands, and we ‘can’t wait’ to see how they find new ways to bring our music into the future!”
Nu Shooz was represented in the deal by Peter Csathy of Deep Cuts Media and Peter Vaughn Shaver, Esq., for Sound Advice, LLC. Seeker Music was represented by Henry Root, for counsel, LLP, along with Bogart, Seeker Music general counsel Dan Stuart and Seeker chief creative officer Steven Melrose.
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When Tim Kappel and Loren Wells first filed a lawsuit in 2023 aimed at helping Cyril Vetter win back control of the global rights to his 1963 rock classic “Double Shot (Of My Baby’s Love),” it was clearly a long shot. Copyright termination, the rule they were invoking, had historically only applied to U.S. rights.
But the two lawyers, founders of the boutique music industry law firm Wells Kappel, felt strongly that they had a winning argument and a perfect test case. Long shot or not, they were going to try it.
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“We’ve been trying to engage with people on this issue for a long time, and we have been laughed at,” Kappel tells Billboard. “We’ve been told we’re crazy. We have been told that this is going nowhere.”
Three years later, it certain didn’t go nowhere. Vetter won his case at a district court, which issued a first-of-its-kind ruling last year that said termination applies to overseas rights just the same as domestic rights. Then in January, against the opposition of major music groups and the predictions of many copyright experts, they won again at a federal appeals court.
Though it deals with an arcane legal issue, that ruling has been the talk of the music industry. Artist advocacy groups have hailed it as a “game-changer” for musicians, allowing them to fully recapture their rights as Congress first intended. Others wonder if it will have a disruptive effect at a time when the market for music catalogs is booming.
Now, the major music companies are striking back, taking over the case with the goal of taking it to the U.S. Supreme Court. That means Kappel and Wells are once again being told they face long odds — a posture that’s just fine with them: “We’ve always viewed ourselves as the underdogs.”
As the big lawsuit moves ahead toward a potential SCOTUS showdown, the two lawyers sat down with Billboard for an extended interview — about warnings that the case will spark “chaos,” about the high court battle ahead, and about how artists are “more aware of the value of their creative properties” than ever before.
This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.
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You’ve now won two major rulings in the Vetter case. But when you first filed it, I’m sure it felt like like an uphill climb. Was that daunting?
Tim Kappel: The short answer is yes. It was daunting. And there were times leading up to the filing of the case where we certainly had second thoughts about where we stood on the law and what our chances were and what the consequences of failure would be. But ultimately, I’ve felt strongly about this issue for over a decade, and when Loren and I looked at it, the series of events were just in perfect shape for a test case. I felt like I would be doing a disservice if I didn’t follow whatever cosmic energy that was.
Loren Wells: We’re certainly not the first people to notice this issue. I think what has been daunting to a lot of people is the idea of affiliating themselves with a case like this, which is going to be scary to the industry overall. That is exactly what’s happened. I think a lot of law firms would be scared to be the attorneys who are bringing this lawsuit, knowing that it’s going to have that effect. But that’s not daunting to us. We are an artist-first firm.
Sometimes in these big test cases, we focus so much on the impact and the disruption that we forget there’s a real person at the heart of all of it. Tell me a little about Cyril Vetter.
TK: He’s a wonderful man. I’ve known him for almost a decade. He is one of the most principled people that I’ve ever met. As you might imagine, the international revenue from “Double Shot (Of My Baby’s Love)” isn’t putting anybody’s kids through college; for him, this was always about the larger issue. He’s over 80 years old now, and he’s been away from his song for more than 60 years. That’s a long time to be away from the songwriting highlight of your life. He’s never blinked, never flinched once, even when I started to flinch.
LW: He is monumentally aware that this case was not just about him. It’s not just about musicians. It’s not just about songwriters. This case is about every creative individual in the United States. Throughout all of this, he has been very mindful of that, and that clearly was part of his motivation for wanting to see this through.
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When the ruling came out, the Music Artists Coalition called it a “massive win for the principle of fairness.” Setting aside complex legal issues, do you think that’s right? A basic fairness issue?
TK: Absolutely. Why would you get back anything less than you gave away? I don’t think Congress ever intended termination rights to be a vehicle through which a rights holder can slice up a copyright into hundreds of pieces and give you back a little sliver. I gave you an asset; when you return it to me, because you’re required to do so by law, give me back all of what I gave you.
LW: 35 years is plenty of time. And we know that because most music deals now are not for perpetuity. Publishing deals almost always have very healthy reversions. Most recording agreements these days are on license bases. The argument that in order to make it fair for the companies, they need to have the rights forever, that just doesn’t check out under basic logic but also under the structures of what deals look like now and the direction the industry is going. And so when we speak of fairness, of course it’s fair to the artist. But it’s also just as fair to the corporate funders, and they know that.
The industry is obviously concerned that this ruling will be very disruptive for publishers and investors and others who currently own these rights. Are those concerns valid?
LW: Disruption feels like chaos to the people being disrupted. What this ruling will do is take away some of the passive income that has been a part of their business for decades. Okay, so they’re going to have to adjust, right? It’s going to be a slow process, with plenty of time for everyone to figure out how to adjust their business models. That’s what we do in this industry.
TK: All you hear is chaos, right? But then, if you ask, well, how exactly would it create chaos? What is so wrong about treating legacy assets in the same way that you’re already treating your modern copyrights? I can appreciate and understand why that feels scary, but I do think if you’re going to cry chaos, the onus is on you to tell me what is chaotic about it.
Speaking of industry fears: Literally hours before this call, the major music companies used an unusual maneuver to take over the case, with the explicit goal of taking it to the Supreme Court. How do you feel about that, and about the potential fight ahead?
TK: I understand why they’re why they’re doing it. And credit to them for being transparent as to why they’re doing it. I appreciate their concerns, and I appreciate why they view it as an important thing that they should be involved in. I have no idea what the Supreme Court is going to do. Ultimately, we don’t control what cases they take up.
When we won at the district court, we were told we had no chance at the appeals court. Now of course people are saying if it goes to the Supreme Court, we have no chance there. I’m not in the business of predictions. What I’m going to say is that I like our argument better than I like theirs, and we are willing to take this wherever it goes, wherever it needs to go, and will argue our case before whoever wants to hear it.
If the Supreme Court takes the case, which of you two is getting up there at the lectern?
LW: [Points at Tim]
TK: [Laughing] I think we’ll keep our strategy to ourselves at this point. The real question is, who are they going to get? Whoever they get is going to be a formidable opponent, someone whose oral arguments I’ve probably listened to more times than they have.
You wrote an op-ed on a recent ruling dismissing Salt-N-Pepa’s lawsuit against Universal Music Group, lamenting that recording artists are often denied termination due to “work for hire” clauses. Why was that an issue you wanted to raise alarm bells about?
TK: It’s such a such an important decision that we get reversed, because it’s the first time that a court has looked and deferred to the [work for hire] language of the contract rather than looking to what the actual law says. We believe recording artists deserve termination rights for the same reasons that songwriters deserve termination rights. And we’re far from done when it comes to our work in the termination space.
LW: Artists are now more aware of ownership and more aware of the benefits of ownership. It’s becoming front and center to a lot of artists and their teams. And so this issue just could not be punted down the field infinitely. At a certain point, we had to face it.
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Is that the Taylor Swift effect? She fought her fight over her masters, and now everybody knows how this stuff works…
TK: We actually get asked that a lot! We’ll be talking about termination rights and people will ask “Is this like the Taylor Swift thing?” And it’s obviously a different legal issue. But you’re right: She has brought the issue of ownership of your intellectual property assets to the public to an extent that it really had never been before.
LW: There’s been a confluence of factors. All the M&A activity, the rise in catalog acquisitions. It’s all connected. Artists are just much more aware of the value of their creative properties, and they want to get the benefit of that.
Let’s end on a very broad question: What’s the most important legal issue facing artists and songwriters in 2026?
LW: I’ll give a boring answer that’s the same one I would have given you ten years ago. I’m a deal guy. What I do for a living is protect artists and make sure that they get the benefit of the value of their work, that they understand what deal they’re entering into and that they are set up for the longest term career. So to me, the most pressing issue is, and has always been, those first deals that they enter into. These recent termination lawsuits are just an example why it’s so important.
Do we have to worry about AI? Of course. We have to understand how AI is being incorporated into recording agreements. Major labels are sending around AI addendums right now, which artists have to be thoroughly vetting. But the fundamentals that underlie the music business, that fundamental transaction that’s at the heart of everything? That has always been there, that will always be there. And that’s still the most important decision that any creative person has to make.
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Stars, as it turns out, are not just like us. Especially if they live in Los Angeles among their fellow A-listers. Take Bush singer Gavin Rossdale, for instance. During a visit to Sirius XM’s Page Six radio this week, the 60-year-old rocker revisited a (swim) meet-cute story about Britney Spears back when the pop icon was his neighbor in the mid-2000s.
Co-host Evan Real noted that Spears, 44, had told the tale back in 2015 in an interview with an Australian outlet, recalling that she randomly told an interviewer that she would love to work with Gwen Stefani one day. Brit added that the No Doubt singer and solo star and then-husband Rossdale used to be her next door neighbors, adding, “‘I swam with her husband … so, that was really cool.’”
Real asked if the “Glycerine” singer knew what she was talking about. “Of course, how could you forget that?” Rossdale said of the dip with Spears. “We were neighbors and so she came around when the kids were small and she was a real character and I got on really well with her. She was lovely and she’s a great swimmer.”
Rossdale also noted that his now-teen children with ex Stefani, Kingston, 19, Zuma, 17, and Apollo, 12, were “too busy chatting with Britney” to play with Spears’ now-adult sons, Sean Preston, 20 and Jayden James, 19. According to Page Six‘s math, Rossdale and Spears were likely neighbors around 2007, when the rocker and Stefani — who married in 2002 and split in 2016 — lived adjacent to the pop star in The Summit gated community in Beverly Hills.
In addition to splashing about, Spears has not been shy about fangirling over Rossdale’s band, posting one of her infamous dance videos in October 2021 in which she spun around to Bush’s signature 1996 Billboard Hot 100 No. 28 hit “Glycerine.”
“’Glycerine’ was my favorite song in high school … sounds like gasoline ⛽️ but you know ‘Glycerine!!!!,’” Spears wrote at the time. “A little secret for ya … @gwenstefani invited me over one day to swim 👙 at her house and me and Gavin from Bush swam together … literally the coolest moment of my life 🤩😂🤣 !!!!” Rossdale reposted the video and wrote, “@britneyspears i love you – best video – sweetest words🖤”
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