Pooh Shiesty will remain in jail after his bombshell arrest for allegedly barricading Gucci Mane in a Dallas recording studio and forcing the 1017 Records boss to sign a label deal release at gunpoint.

Shiesty (Lontrell Williams Jr.) was denied bail following a Wednesday (April 8) evidentiary hearing in Texas federal court, where he was charged last week with kidnapping and conspiracy to commit kidnapping over the alleged “armed takeover” in January. He faces up to life in prison if convicted.  

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“Based on the credible evidence presented at the hearing, the court finds probable cause to believe that defendant committed the law violations alleged in the criminal complaint,” wrote U.S. Magistrate Judge Renée Harris Toliver in a detention order obtained by Billboard.

Wednesday’s hearing featured testimony from an FBI agent about police reports given the night of the incident, when Shiesty allegedly pulled an AK-style pistol during a business meeting and forced Mane to release him from 1017. Though Mane (born Radric Davis) has not been named in court, the charging documents identify this victim as “R.D.” and describe him as the head of 1017.

Shiesty’s attorney, Bradford Cohen, told reporters after the hearing that the entire case rests on “very questionable” witness statements, noting, “The FBI doesn’t take three months to arrest someone if they believe everything that was said on the night that it occurred.”

“They have no contract,” said Cohen. “They have no video of this alleged signing of a contract. They have no guns. They have no jewelry. They have none of that physical evidence.”

Shiesty was charged last week alongside eight alleged co-conspirators, including his father, Lontrell Williams Sr., and the rapper Big30 (Rodney Wright Jr.). Prosecutors say these individuals barricaded the recording studio and robbed Mane’s associates of Rolex watches, a 1017 chain and a Louis Vuitton bag.

The alleged incident came just a few months after Shiesty’s release from prison on federal gun charges. He was still on post-release house arrest in January — a factor cited by Judge Toliver in Wednesday’s detention order.

“In light of that fact and the fact that the conditions of pretrial release at this court’s disposal are the same or similar to those defendant has already violated, the court finds that there is no condition or combination of conditions the court can impose in this case which will reasonably assure defendant’s appearance as required or the safety of the community or another person if released,” wrote the judge.


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Flea makes his solo Billboard chart debut, as his first solo album, Honora, arrives on six album charts (dated April 11). The jazz project, from the longtime Red Hot Chili Peppers‘ bassist, launches in the top 10 on Billboard‘s Jazz Albums (at No. 2), Contemporary Jazz Albums (No. 2) and Indie Store Album Sales (No. 3) charts. It also takes a bow on Vinyl Albums (No. 12), Top Album Sales (No. 16) and the overall Billboard 200 (No. 198).

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Honora is the highest debut of 2026 thus far on either Jazz Albums or Contemporary Jazz Albums.

Flea plays bass and trumpet throughout the Honora album, which features guest vocal turns from Nick Cave (on a cover of the Jimmy Webb-penned “Wichita Lineman”) and Radiohead’s Thom Yorke (on the new original tune “Traffic Lights”)

Honora has been an album decades in the making, according to a press release from Nonesuch  Records, which released the project. Flea grew up listening to jazz music from the likes of Dizzy Gillespie and Miles Davis, before eventually picking up the bass and joining the Red Hot Chili Peppers as a teenager. “When I was a kid,” he recently told NPR, “I wanted to be a jazz trumpet player. I wanted to be Dizzy Gillespie.” Flash forward to 2022, and Flea (who played the trumpet as a child) began practicing the trumpet daily for the next two years, leading to the album’s recording in early 2025.

Flea will bring Honora on the road beginning on May 7 in Chicago, with tour dates lined up through July 11 in Rotterdam, Netherlands.

Madonna is unfortunately no stranger to ageist comments, having received them for years. However, today she has a new superstar defending her.

In a video posted to TikTok on Wednesday (April 8), Doja Cat spoke up for Madonna against people who say that the pop legend is “too old” to be onstage. In the nearly two-minute-long, selfie-style clip, Doja expresses being “tickled and bothered” by commenters who tell Madonna “to stop” in response to TikToks of the singer performing.

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“It’s interesting to me because, it’s like, you’re telling a musician who makes music, who performs it as a job, to stop doing it?” the rapper says. “I’m trying to wrap my head around that.”

Doja then begins to question if these hate comments against Madonna are because the “Vogue” singer is “an older woman who feels sexy.”

“Is that why you want her to get off stage? Because you feel threatened by an older woman who can do her job forever?” Doja asks before saying that Madonna has something she loves doing that other people are paying to see and also enjoy with the singer. Doja then mocks the haters saying that maybe they don’t like Madonna performing because they have “something personal happening in there” and that “nobody else knows it and only you do.”

“Is that why you’re upset? Aww,” she jests before breaking out into laughter. “I’m sorry, it’s not funny.”

Doja then begins wiping away fake tears while commenting that “it is sad” and saying she’ll cry alongside them.

“I’m so sorry,” she faux cries out, ending the video.

Most recently, Madonna hit the stage for an intimate performance at a Dolce & Gabbana fashion show in Milan last month. Previously, the legend concluded her record-breaking Celebration Tour where she performed at sold-out venues and arenas across Europe and the Americas before concluding with a free show on Rio De Janeiro’s Copacabana Beach for over 1.6 million attendees.

Doja’s most recent performance was at the Global Citizen Move Afrika festival in South Africa in March, after months of touring in support of her Billboard 200 No. 4 album Vie. Tour Ma Vie resumes on May 19 in Dublin, then making its way across Europe before coming to the U.S. and concluding on December 1 at Madison Square Garden.

Watch Doja Cat’s full Madonna defense below.

Entertainment legend, global philanthropist and friend of Maya Angelou, Oprah Winfrey has achieved every dream she ever had — except for one.

In a Tuesday appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert, Winfrey spoke about how she’s been fortunate to have every one of her wildest wishes come true. The only one that never came to fruition was ending up with her teenage crush.

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“Everything I ever wanted or dreamed came true,” Winfrey said. “Except, I did not marry Paul McCartney.

The media mogul goes on to share that, growing up, she was the only girl she knew who loved The Beatles as much as she did. She even collected Beatles trading cards. And of course, like every fangirl she had a favorite member of the band.

“Of course Paul was my favorite Beatle. And I used to try to make him think of me,” Winfrey says, clutching her fists and remembering. “I used to wake in the morning and I’d stand on the stairs and say, ‘Think of me, think of me, think of me.’”

Unlike most other fangirls, however, Winfrey actually got to know her childhood crush one day. She shares that, years later, when she got the chance to interview the rock legend, she took the opportunity to ask him the question that’s been burning in the back of her mind since childhood.

“My first question to him was, ‘All those years, I was 14, and I was thinking of you. Did you ever once think of me?’” she recounts. McCartney’s reply is one that every fan hopes to hear one day: “Every day, babe, every day.”

Though Winfrey never got the chance to marry her favorite Beatle, the two of them did participate in a very special ceremony together one day. In 2010, both entertainers were awarded with Kennedy Center Honors. One of Winfrey’s favorite memories of that big night occurred not when she received her honor, but when The Beatles’ Billboard Hot 100 No. 1 “Hey Jude” began playing.

“[McCartney] took my hand,” she said. “And that was the dream I had all those years!”

Fifteen years after making Winfrey’s dreams come true, McCartney is continuing to make the dreams of all of his fans realities by releasing new music. Last month, the legend announced the release date of his 19th studio album The Boys of Dungeon Lane. The new record, set to drop on May 29, is McCartney’s first solo album in five years. The lead single, “Days We Left Behind,” is out now.

Fans can presave Paul McCartney’s The Boys of Dungeon Lane here and, while they wait for the album to come out, can watch Winfrey’s full Colbert interview below.

Record Store Day 2026 will honor a longtime record store enthusiast this year with its coveted Record Store Legend award. The 77-year-old recipient, born in West Bromwich, England, has been frequenting record stores his whole life, most recently visiting brick-and-mortar locales in West Virginia; Kansas City, Missouri; Raleigh, North Carolina; and Austin, Texas. The vinyl-loving Englishman has even made a few albums himself over the years, releases you might find at a record store near you if you flip to the sections marked “Led Zeppelin,” “Robert Plant” or even his old covers band, “The Honeydrippers.”

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Yes, Robert Plant—an eight-time Grammy winner, Rock & Roll Hall of Famer and a Kennedy Center Award recipient—was announced as the 2026 Record Store Legend on Wednesday (April 8).

“Record stores have always been a part of my life. For me, once you get to the physical record it’s because you really want to know and be a part of what the artist was considering,” Plant said in a statement. “And I know, as a guy who’s been making records since 1966, people want to take home something very special, to enjoy all the elements of what an artist has put together. We want a connection between the music and the art of the whole thing.”

In advance of the 2026 Record Store Day festivities on April 18, Plant visited the delightful Spillers Records—which Billboard profiled in 2023 as the world’s oldest record store—in Cardiff, Wales, where he now boasts a permanent Record Store Legend plaque.

“The universe already recognizes Robert Plant as a legend, as proven by the legacy of his decades of recording and performing,” Spillers Records’ Ashli Todd said in a statement. “But record shops of the world will know firsthand that above all, Robert Plant is a connoisseur of his craft whose appetite for musical discoveries has not waned with the passage of time. We could wax lyrical all day about what a passionate record shop supporter Robert Plant is, so suffice to say, it is our honor to be the chosen custodians of his Record Store Legend plaque.”

Record Store Day reliably has a celebrity ambassador each year—2026’s is Bruno Mars—but doles out the Record Store Legend award sparingly. Only Elton John and Johnny Marr have received it before.

You can watch a video of Plant’s visit to the legendary record store below and see what exclusives RSD 2026 has to offer on the organization’s website.

Welcome to Billboard Pro’s Trending Up newsletter, where we take a closer look at the songs, artists, curiosities and trends that have caught the music industry’s attention. Some have come out of nowhere, others have taken months to catch on, and all of them could become ubiquitous in the blink of a TikTok clip.

This week: Hit film Project Hail Mary boosts soundtrack cuts and Harry Styles’ “Sign of the Times,” Pooh Shiesty’s shocking arrest lifts his comeback song and Baton Rouge MC Fredo Bang eyes a new hit thanks to TikTok.

Harry Styles’ Debut Single & Other Soundtrack Cuts Achieve Liftoff Following ‘Project Hail Mary’ Box Office Success

The Ryan Gosling-starring space adventure flick Project Hail Mary has quickly established itself as one of the year’s biggest blockbusters, drawing strong reviews and already grossing over $420 million at the global box office. Much of the movie’s charm comes from its smartly chosen soundtrack selections — a couple of which took much time and effort to get cleared — which have resulted in big gains for some of the bigger songs featured in the hit film.

“Two of Us,” The Beatles’ 1970 Let It Be-opening ode to friendship, is featured in a key late scene in the movie between Gosling’s Ryland Grace accidental-astronaut character and his film companion, and resulted in the song drawing 461,000 official on-demand streams for the tracking week ending Apr. 2 — a 234% gain from two weeks earlier, before the film’s debut, according to Luminate. “Pata Pata,” a top 15 Billboard Hot 100 hit for legendary South African singer-songwriter Miriam Makeba in 1967, was also up 197% to 89,000 streams over the same period after being featured in a supplies-shopping montage in the movie, while Dennis Wilson’s cult-pop favorite “Rainbows” was up 4,230% to 78,000 streams after its own spotlight moment in the movie. 

But the most significant gains from the movie have been enjoyed by someone who’s already had a good deal of chart success in 2026: Harry Styles. While the pop superstar’s March LP, Kiss All the Time. Disco, Occasionally. remains in the top 10 of the Billboard 200 albums chart, his solo debut single, “Sign of the Times,” is experiencing a major streaming revival after being featured in a PHM karaoke scene, where it’s unexpectedly performed by a buttoned-up scientist character played by Oscar nominee Sandra Hüller. After “Sign” amassed 2.8 million streams for the tracking week ending Mar. 19, that number was up 87% to 5.2 million streams two weeks later — a higher number than every Disco track outside of the latest single “American Girls.” — ANDREW UNTERBERGER


New Legal Troubles Boost Pooh Shiesty’s ‘FDO’ Just Six Months After His Release from Prison

Last week (April 1), Memphis rapper Pooh Shiesty, alongside dad Lontrell Williams Sr. and fellow MC BIG30, was among eight individuals arrested on robbery and kidnapping charges tied to a violent dispute over his recording contract with Gucci Mane’s 1017 Records. Those headlines made major waves, particularly because Shiesty just came home from a three-year stint in federal prison last October. He celebrated his release by joining the storied hip-hop tradition of “first day out” songs with the aptly titled “FDO,” which initially reached No. 12 on the Billboard Hot 100 in January, marking his highest-peaking entry on the all-genre ranking.

Though the song has since exited the Hot 100, it could be gearing up for a return. According to Luminate, “FDO” doubled in weekly on-demand U.S. streams in the three-day period following Shiesty’s arrest. Across March 30-April 1, “FDO” collected 2.02 million official on-demand U.S. streams. After the Department of Justice confirmed Shiesty’s arrest on April 2, that figure vaulted 104% to 4.13 million official on-demand U.S. streams collected during the period of April 3-5.

As he gears up to fight yet another case, expect fans to keep revisiting “FDO.” — KYLE DENIS


Yearning TikTok Trend Revives Fredo Bang’s ‘Say Please’

Everyone’s obsessed with yearning to the point where it feels like the performance of that obsession has replaced the actual action of yearning. Still, that hasn’t stopped TikTok from spinning out yet another yearning-inspired trend.

On March 11, user @/mikaylasaccountt shared a video of herself crying and lip-syncing to the final two lines of the chorus of Pooh Shiesty’s “Say Please,” a cut from his 2022 UNLV album. That clip went incredibly viral, amassing nearly one million likes and over six million views, setting into motion a trend of people replicating her video and “saying please” for (relatively) romance-related requests. There are currently nearly 50,000 posts attached to the unofficial “Say Please” TikTok sound, while the official audio is used in nearly 70,000 posts. Fredo Bang himself also hopped on the trend, sharing several TikToks set to “Say Please,” including one in which he seemingly shoots his shot at Cardi B. People have also been returning to Fredo’s 2022 “Shootin’ Outside” performance of the track, which had its own quasi-viral moment a few years ago.

From Jan. 30 to Feb. 5, “Say Please” earned just 198,000 official on-demand U.S. streams. Over the following eight weeks, that figure ballooned by 867% to over 1.9 million official streams during the period of March 27-April 2.

As the song continues to grow beyond the initial TikTok trend, Fredo Bang could be looking at a legitimate springtime hit. — K.D.

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The new millennium had not yet begun when Juanes moved to Los Angeles with a few songs and the dream of starting a solo career after leading a rock band in Colombia called Ekhymosis. By 1999, just a year later, he had signed with Gustavo Santaolalla’s label, Surco, and by 2000 he released Fíjate Bien, his debut studio album.

Twenty-five years later, the Colombian rocker can look back and say he’s had a remarkable career — with its ups and downs. A winner of accolades that include 25 Latin Grammys, four Grammys and over 10 Billboard Latin Music Awards, Juanes is one of the most established and revered Latin artists of his generation, with Billboard chart-topping hits like “Me Enamora” (which led the Hot Latin Songs chart for 20 weeks in 2007) “La Camisa Negra” and “A Dios le Pido.”

He has also made it a point to support new talent, not only through collaborations — as is well known, Juanes was the one who introduced Rosalía to his then manager Rebeca León after being impressed by the young Spanish artist’s talent, sparking a fruitful six-year partnership. Additionally, he’s been a promoter of peace through humanitarian efforts such as the Mi Sangre Foundation, which he co-founded in 2006 with social entrepreneur Catalina Cock Duque.

And his creativity knows no bounds. Last month, the Medellín rock star released JuanesTeban, his 12th studio album — “a kaleidoscope of sounds that connects the intimacy of Colombian folklore with the power of rock,” as Billboard‘s Isabela Raygoza described it — with 16 songs that explore light and darkness, the essence of life. The album’s cover, created by Juanes himself, is a self-portrait that reveals a lesser-known side of the artist: that of a prolific — though until now private — sketch artist.

In a recent in-depth interview with Billboard Español, Juanes — now based in Miami — spoke via Zoom from his home about his new album, his family, his use of social media, his mental health and much more.

1. Congratulations on JuanesTeban, your 12th studio album. Where does this album find you in your life?

In my best state. I think this is the best version of myself. And I’ve found a clarity that I had lost long ago. Fortunately, today I’m in total connection with my essence, with my being, with my spirituality, with my life, with my family.

2. Tell me about the title of the album, which is JuanesTeban instead of Juan Esteban.

Well, my father used to call me Juanes, and my siblings and friends at school too, but Juan Esteban is my real name. I think after so many years, I understood that many personalities live within me. It’s like JuanesTeban is several people at once: he’s joy, sadness, anger, emotion, intellect, superficiality, materialism… Everything that has to do with me as a person and as an artist is encompassed in that name.

3. For this project, you also created the cover art, which is a self-portrait.

I studied industrial design at the Pontifical Bolivarian University [in my hometown of Medellin,] and I’ve always loved art and drawing. I’ve been sketching for many years, and I love drawing faces. I used to do it as a hobby on planes or at home on free afternoons. I really enjoy disconnecting from music sometimes and diving into drawing. Then Rafa Restrepo, my manager, saw me drawing during one of those flights, and he suggested we use it. We called two friends of ours who’ve worked with us on graphic design for many years, Camilo Londoño and Sebas Londoño, and that’s how we created the visual concept for the album. I love it because it shows a different side of how I express myself through art.

4. Any plans to showcase those drawings to the world?

I didn’t have any plans before, but now with the album, several people have asked me about it. So, of course, you start to think, “Should I do it? Should I not?” Honestly, I’d like to. Maybe later in life, when I have the freedom, calmness and mindset to say, “OK, let’s do this.” For now, I’ve got the drawings stored — there’s an incredible amount of them.

5. The album includes collaborations with both established and emerging talents. You’ve always supported new talent — from early backing of Rosalía to including a song by Joaquina in your album Vida Cotidiana (2023). Why is this important to you?

Because it’s what happened to me. I’ll never forget when Carlos Vives, for example, decided to support the band I was in, Ekhymosis. For me, that was incredible. I later understood that it’s something I should also do. It’s like keeping the energetic chain going: if someone helped me, it’s wonderful to be able to do the same for others. There are so many young, very talented people doing truly amazing things. That excites me.

6. A song on your album that particularly moved me was “Madre,” dedicated to your mother, whom you lost in September. Could you tell us a bit about the process of creating this song? And was it healing for you in any way?

The process of “Madre” was a long one. My mother lived to 95 years old, but the last three years were the most critical, and that’s when this started. I didn’t even plan to include it on this album; it was more like I was watching her deteriorate. I had already written her a song in my first album, “La única,” which was a declaration of love. During those last three years, I started crafting this song and made several versions. I didn’t like them, so I’d record it again, and then I’d change it here and there. Finally, with Nico Cotton producing, we arrived at this beautiful place for me — because it’s a nostalgic song, but it also has joy, with the percussion, the Colombian tiple, the Peruvian cajón. It has this Andean essence, and almost even Southern vibes, like a mix of chacarera and Colombian bambuco. I don’t know, it felt like we arrived at a magical place where I said, “My God, thank you.”

And the choruses and arrangement feel like a celebration of my mother and her existence. It’s the song I never wanted to write, so to speak, but I also find in music, as you said, catharsis and a way to heal.

7. Did she get to hear any version of it?

Yes! She heard this final version, and she was so happy. She loved it. She was always my No. 1 fan.

8. Each album is usually followed by a tour. What will the JuanesTeban Tour be like?

It’s going to be the best tour of my life. This tour is about the present moment and the full potential of all of us as musicians. With all the staging, lighting and production we’ve put together, it’s going to be incredible.

9. Moving on to more personal topics, you have a beautiful family, and we often see you together on your social media. Has it been difficult for you to share certain moments of your private life publicly?

You know what’s happened to me? When I didn’t share, I felt worse… like I was trapped. When I started opening up and talking about what I was really going through, I also began to heal. I realized that vulnerability is a strength, and that we are all more alike than we think. We all have problems — problems with our kids, with marriage, with friends, with work. It’s normal. Life isn’t perfect in any way. So I feel like finding the freedom to talk, for example, about depression — which I’ve struggled with since I was 14 or 15 years old — has been incredibly healing for me and has given me so much strength.

10. On your social media, we’ve also seen you exercising both alone and with your family. What’s been the key to staying physically and mentally healthy?

I’ve been through many phases, and even the dark and difficult moments have shaped me to be much better and calmer today. I think it’s a mix of things. I wouldn’t say it’s just about eating healthy or exercising… I was very chubby as a kid, and I suffered a lot because I was bullied. I started exercising a lot when I was 14 or 15, and it became an addiction. For me, exercising has even helped with depression. But of course, exercise led me to injure my knees several times, and in those dark and sad moments, I’d think, “I just want to feel better.” So I started letting go of habits that were harming me — like drinking too much alcohol. I learned to value sobriety. I love being sober, being present, eating as healthily as I can, reading a book, writing, drawing, playing sports, going to the movies. I don’t know, it’s about treating myself kindly. That’s really important in order to feel good.

11. And when it comes to family and work, how have you managed to find balance?

It’s also been very difficult. I’ve been through extremely tough times in our relationship. But I’ve been fortunate to have [my wife] Cecilia in my life because we love each other and have learned to give each other space, to learn and understand. She’s been an incredibly elegant and special woman with me through all of it, and I feel nothing but gratitude, honestly. So we look at our children, at the years we’ve shared, and we try to always remember where we came from and why we’re here. Hopefully, we can stay together for the rest of our lives, but I think relationships are always challenging. As kids grow up, you get frustrated because it’s no longer the same as when they were little. It’s crazy. It’s a big change, but that’s where maturity comes in. You mature, and love transforms into other things and there are other priorities. I don’t know — for me, it’s been beautiful because it’s been growth through both pain and joy. Not just celebration, but also difficult moments. I think that’s where we are, and we’re doing very well.

12. This year marks 25 years since your debut as a solo artist with the album Fíjate Bien. What do you remember most about that time?

So much. Especially my time in Los Angeles, because I arrived there with nothing — it was just an idea. I had the songs and the desire to do something, but I was fortunate to meet Marusa Reyes, who was Caifanes’ manager. Marusa connected me with Gustavo Santaolalla, Manolo Díaz and Universal, and that’s where it all began. Gustavo heard my demos, liked them, signed me to Surco, and it was like waking up in a perfect dream. It felt like I was walking on air. It was crazy. But it was also hard because radio stations at the time thought my music was too rock for pop and too pop for rock, so I was caught in the middle, fighting to find a place. But it was beautiful. I met Cecilia during that time. We even have videos. Just the other day, we were watching them with our kids. We were just kids ourselves! There I was, recording myself on the computer with my guitar while she was filming me.

13. In 2002, you achieved your first Billboard No. 1s with the mega-hit “A Dios le Pido” and the album Un Día Normal. What did that mean to you?

It was a before and after. With that album in particular, we started traveling literally around the world. From one day to the next, I’d have lunch here, breakfast there, and sleep in a different hotel. We toured everywhere. It was incredible. It was like that dream was starting to become a reality, you know? I was so happy, my soul was full. That was when everything really took off.

14. I’m going to say a series of words, names or titles, and I’d like you to tell me the first thing that comes to mind. Colombia.

Everything to me.

15. La Chechi (Cecilia).

Inspiration.

16. Fatherhood.

The best gift life has given me.

17. Fame.

Confusion.

18. “La Camisa Negra”.

Joy. Joy.

19. What’s your favorite place in Colombia?

Medellín.

20. In no more than five words, how would you define your career?

Better than I had ever imagined.

21. Well, that’s six words, but I’ll take it. What do you feel you still have left to achieve as a songwriter?

I’m always searching for the song I haven’t written yet. I don’t know what it is, but I’m chasing after it.

22. What’s the song you wrote the fastest?

I think “A Dios le Pido” might be one of those. “Odio por Amor,” too. It’s not that they were written quickly, but I felt a lot of clarity at that moment.

23. Do you feel any pressure to surpass yourself after everything you’ve accomplished?

That pressure has already come and gone, went around me three times and turned me upside down about 10 years ago. Right now, in this moment of my life, with this album, the previous one and what’s to come, I feel like I’m in a “free drawing” class. In other words, doing whatever I want, relaxed. And I like that a lot.

24. What song by another artist, in any language, do you wish were yours?

There’s a song by Fito Páez called “Un Vestido y un Amor.” I think it’s the most beautiful of all songs. Every time I listen to it, I say, “My God, I wish I had written that song.”

25. Where do you see yourself 25 years from now?

Hopefully, I’ll still be on a stage, in a studio — just like I see Juan Luis Guerra, Metallica, Mick Jagger, Rubén Blades and Miguel Bosé, because I admire them. I hope I have the strength and health to keep doing that.

Who doesn’t live for The Drama? Acclaimed distributor A24 has yet another theatrical hit on its hands with Kristoffer Borgli’s latest conversation-sparking film, The Drama, which grossed $28 million worldwide in its opening weekend. Led by Zendaya and Robert Pattinson, the psychological romantic black comedy follows a couple gearing up for a wedding weekend that dramatically unravels after the revelation of controversial, lifelong secrets.

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Anchored by a shocking reveal, Borgli’s incisive yet hilarious screenplay and top-tier performances from both leads, The Drama has quickly dominated social media with infinite interlocked discourses. Each of the film’s individual elements reinforces its testy themes of redemption, morality and forgiveness — particularly its immersive, folk-driven soundtrack, curated by music supervisor Jemma Burns. Built around recently unearthed ‘70s cuts like Shira Small’s “I Want to Lay With You” and wistful ‘50s numbers like Nolan Strong & The Diablo’s “The Wind,” Burns’ most rewarding Drama synchs lean into the juxtaposition between the selected compositions and the actions unfolding on screen. And it all began with one playlist.

“I’d read the script and seen his other work, so I was excited to meet him, but I had no idea about who was in [The Drama] or anything,” says Burns, who got connected with Borgli through Square Peg producer Tyler Campellone. “But we just straight away got each other; there’s a type of humor and lens we see the world through that really aligned. I got to work looking for a song for their wedding dance lesson [‘Lay With You’], which came from my very first playlist of ideas. The song at the top of that playlist, ‘Inside Out,’ was the second song they danced to. I think I’d gotten the job from that very first playlist I sent.”

As a romcom that trades on the genre’s typical tropes while incorporating chilling pieces of uniquely American culture, The Drama relies on its music not just to emphasize its most uncomfortable moments but also to provide levity and release in a narrative infused with tension. From the delightfully startling Alicia Keys needle drop to the fortifying Moondog song that plays over the end credits, music is effectively the fifth character in The Drama’s primary ensemble.

Below, Burns speaks with Billboard about clearing Keys’ “Try Sleeping With a Broken Heart,” working with Zendaya and building a dynamic partnership with Borgli.

What did you think when you finished reading the script?

After I’ve read the script, I like to hear the director’s approach. If you haven’t worked with someone before, you want to make sure that you’ve understood their sensibility and where they’re coming from. I just really got what Kris was after, and we really clicked from that first playlist.

What’s your process like generally? How did you know when you found the right fit for a song and a scene?

I like to get as many reference tracks as possible from the writer and/or director, [which] are clues to this person’s sensibility and their take on this particular story. Some of those songs might not necessarily even end up in the film. There’s a bit of guesswork involved.

Obviously, things change throughout the process because once everything comes together and you’re in the edit suite, you might find there’s a bit of a lull at one point in the story. There are many different reasons why things can shift, and we did switch around a few songs throughout the process. But many of the songs from my original playlist ended up in the film, so that was very satisfying.

The Drama has several ‘70s-era and folk music synchs. What about the film’s narrative and the actors’ performances drew you to that era and genre?

I think Kris was really going for an aesthetic that was influenced by sweet ‘60s European films and some early ‘70s American romcoms. I really wanted it to feel somewhat timeless and from another era — maybe a more golden, bygone era — so that when the gears shift, it’s a lot more jarring. We’re also still in a very modern world, and they’re very switched-on, worldly characters. That all comes crashing into the modern world when the big secret is revealed, so we’re trying to set up this contrast.

All the way through [The Drama], there’s a sort of old-fashioned whimsy. Even the final song [Moondog’s “Do Your Thing”] feels like it should be an American classic. It’s not that widely known, but it has this warm, whimsical feel; it fluctuates between the light and the dark, and the cuteness [of the romance] and the brutality of what they’re actually talking about.

How did you land on Alicia Keys’ “Try Sleeping With a Broken Heart?” Was it easy to clear this song for a film of this nature?

It needed to be something that those women would realistically put on. We’re not trying to suggest that they’re into really nerdy internet radio stations or anything like that. But at the same time, I think Kris was quite keen to give the film a somewhat unique feel by not using super obvious tracks. Even though Alicia Keys is such a beloved artist, [“Try Sleeping With a Broken Heart”] is a relatively deep cut [for general audiences]. It’s not exactly a household name song, but it should be a classic. Kris was very adamant that we didn’t use music that felt like it was part of the culture at large at this moment in time to build a singular aesthetic.

We always give a synopsis of the film. With a film like this, where they were intentionally trying to keep the plot under wraps as much as possible, it was a fairly minimal summary. We also always describe what’s going on in the specific scene that we used to track over. If the artists or songwriters are curious to know more, they can certainly ask. Sometimes, when it’s a particularly difficult song to clear, we might send them the actual scene. In the instance of Mariah Carey’s “Always Be My Baby” for Beau Is Afraid. I actually got Ari [Aster] to write a letter to Mariah, because sometimes it’s best to cut out the middlemen and get them to speak artist to artist. But we didn’t have too much trouble on this one. Alicia Keys’ people seemed very up for it. It’s always hard to guess what an artist’s film tastes are as well, isn’t it? You can’t assume they like satirical or controversial films, so you do have to tread gently.

What was the most pivotal note Borgli gave you? Did you pull any inspiration from Zendaya and Robert Pattinson or their performances?

Whimsy came with the very first song we were looking at, which was Shira Small’s “I Want to Lay With You.” Kris really wanted something with a sweet earnestness about it, but slightly old-fashioned. So, when Zendaya’s character says, “Maybe we should just dance how we normally dance,” the next song is their in-joke as a couple. Jesse Rae, [who sings] “Inside Out,” is such a character. He’s a Scottish man who was really good friends with the Troutman Brothers and Parliament-Funkadelic. They all adore him and went back to Scotland with him to record these amazing tracks that are sung in a thick Scottish accent, but with all that African-American funk. It’s a beautiful, very singular combination of sounds that’s just so joyful. And even some of my most nerdy music nerd friends had never heard of this guy! We’re actually going to do a little seven-inch [vinyl] release of that one.

I didn’t hear much direct feedback from [the stars], but working on scenes with Zendaya was interesting because she’s such a cultural phenomenon. She’s been in so many scenes, whether it’s Euphoria or Challengers, that have iconic music moments. I had to dig even deeper to figure out what songs would work with her because different combinations of songs over her image convey different things. Oftentimes, we were like, “No, this is giving Euphoria” or another project she’s heavily associated with. That extra layer of nuance was definitely there.

There are also flashes of the ’50s with songs like “The Wind” and “Sans vous aimer.” What about those songs and that era spoke to the story The Drama is trying to tell?

Oftentimes, you just don’t know what’s going to work until you actually try them together. They both fit in with this bygone golden feel we’ve set up, but they also work well because they’re surprising combinations. You have a gorgeous, old song like “The Wind” playing over an [angsty] teenage girl running around the house with her dad’s gun — not a combination you would instantly think of. It’s an intentional contrast of the slightly more innocent bygone era against the complexities of life for a teenager in this century, and what’s going on with schoolchildren as well.

Where are you listening to music these days?

Everywhere. “I Want to Lay With You” came to me because of Numero, a quite beloved reissue label that digs up old private pressings and gives them a new life. This Shara Small song was particularly lovely because she essentially recorded the album as a school project, and I don’t think she ever thought anything of it since the early ’70s. It was reissued [in 2022] and got some attention, but certainly not known by the wider public. Now she’s having a little revival thanks to her inclusion in the film.

I think that the characters would probably also listen to NTS [Radio]! It’s funny that something like NTS, which showcases either underground artists or oddball forgotten hits from previous eras, has become such a phenomenon that it’s [now synonymous] with quirky music. Even the weird underground alternative stuff has a mass audience platform these days. And we specifically did want to steer clear of artists that maybe have had an NTS special. It’s almost unavoidable at this point. Not that every amazing old song has already been discovered, but a lot of them are pretty readily accessible these days.

Salt-N-Pepa is getting support from Irving Azoff’s Music Artists Coalition (MAC) in litigation with Universal Music Group (UMG) over rights to the iconic hip-hop duo’s catalog of hits.

MAC submitted an amicus brief on Tuesday (April 7) to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, which is reviewing a lower court’s dismissal of the lawsuit brought by Cheryl “Salt” James and Sandra “Pepa” Denton against the world’s largest music company. The dispute stems from UMG’s refusal to revert the rappers’ master recordings after they exercised the so-called “termination right,” a tenet of copyright law that allows creators to claw back their intellectual property decades after signing it away.

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A New York federal judge ruled in January that Salt-N-Pepa has no termination rights because the duo was not actually a party to any of its 1986 contracts with Next Plateau Records, which has since been absorbed by UMG. These deals were executed by the duo’s music producer, Hurby “Luv Bug” Azor, and do not say anywhere that Salt-N-Pepa owned its songs.

MAC, the advocacy group founded by Azoff in 2019 alongside artists like Don Henley, Dave Matthews and Anderson .Paak, warns in its amicus brief that the lower court’s decision creates a dangerous roadmap showing record labels and music publishers how to hold onto copyrights past the termination window.

“This ill-conceived rule makes it trivially easy for publishers or distributors to evade termination: By transferring rights to a new entity and ensuring an author is neither a party to nor an executor of the new grant, publishers and distributors can entirely insulate themselves from an author’s enforcement of statutory termination rights,” reads the brief. “Accepting such a rule would render decades of negotiation and eventual compromise between authors and distributors — as codified in the 1976 Act — entirely meaningless, nullifying the hard‑won protections the 1976 Copyright Act affords authors.”

MAC, joined by writer advocacy group Authors Alliance and legal organization Public Knowledge, says Congress explicitly created copyright termination to address creators’ inadequate leverage and compensation early in their careers. The brief notes, for example, that Bob Dylan received only a $100 advance in his first publishing deal in 1962, and Bruce Springsteen signed away his entire catalog to a manager in exchange for just 3% of royalties in 1972.  

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Also on Tuesday, the National Society of Entertainment & Arts Lawyers (NSEAL) submitted its own amicus brief in support of Salt-N-Pepa. Authored by the New Orleans-based music attorney who recently won a landmark appellate ruling on the global reach of copyright termination, the brief focuses on the “work for hire” exception to termination rights.

Under copyright law, work created in the scope of employment is not eligible for termination. Though the lower court did not focus on this exception in the Salt-N-Pepa ruling, NSEAL argues that the decision implicitly determined — incorrectly — that the rappers were working for hire in 1986.

“Inherent in the district court’s conclusion that there was no ‘transfer of copyright ownership’ by Denton and James, is a determination that the subject recordings were ‘works made for hire,’” writes NSEAL. “Respectfully, making that determination without any factual development or legal explanation was reversible error, and the case should be remanded.”

Salt-N-Pepa’s lawyer, Richard Busch, praised both briefs in a statement to Billboard: “That these amazing groups of the top people in the industry filed these amicus briefs speaks volumes not only to the strength of this appeal but to its importance to all artists in the music industry.”

A rep for UMG did not return a request for comment on the amicus briefs on Wednesday (April 8). The company’s own appellate brief is due next month.


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Soulja Boy is coming to the SNL stage, whether he likes it or not.

In a new promo for SNL‘s upcoming April 11 episode, cast member Veronika Slowikowska whips out some of her best tips and tricks to impress first-time host Colman Domingo and convince him to green light her wildest pitches.

In the video shared to YouTube on Wednesday (April 8), Domingo is apprehensive about Slowikowska’s ideas and unsure of what exactly she is trying to convey. The SNL comedian starts by introducing her character, Domingo’s incredibly loud upstairs neighbor. As she brings out a variety of props including a fake rat and a hobby horse, Domingo’s inner monologue lets viewers know that he hates her ideas. Unfortunately, his external response is mismatched with his internal one and he tells Slowikowska that her ideas are amazing.

Of course, this only stokes the comedian’s flame and she continues to whip out pitch after pitch and bad idea after bad idea for the actor’s approval. At one point she hits a very iconic 2000s dance.

“Is she doing Soulja Boy?” Domingo’s internal monologue asks while Slowikowska hits the all too familiar “Crank That” moves. In the end, Domingo can’t help himself and agrees to all of Slowikowska’s out-there ideas, leading him into an internal spiral.

Hopefully musical guest Anitta can help pull him out of this spiral by Saturday. The Brazilian super star is set to make her SNL debut alongside the first-time host. Anitta will appear on SNL two days after her new Shakira collab “Choka Choka” drops. Her seventh studio album, EQUILIBRIVM, is set to be released the Friday after her SNL performance, April 16.

Domingo and Anitta will be some of the last acts to take the SNL stage this season. The sketch comedy show also announced on Wednesday this season’s final slate of hosts and musical guests.

Olivia Rodrigo will make her SNL return by pulling double duty as host and musical guest on May 2. The pop star’s appearance on the show will mark her third time on the show but her first as a host. The stint is perfect promotion for Rodrigo’s upcoming third album, You Seem Pretty Sad for a Girl So in Love, set to release June 12. Though the album will not come until after her SNL performance, the lead single, “Drop Dead,” drops on April 17, just in time for her to debut it live on the show.

Third-time host Matt Damon and musical guest Noah Kahan will take the stage the following week on May 9. Kahan will likely perform songs from his fourth studio album The Great Divide, which comes out just two weeks prior on April 24.

Finally, sixth-timer Will Ferrell will host the last episode of the season with fifth-time musical guest Paul McCartney on May 16. McCartney’s new album The Boys of Dungeon Lane drops on May 29.

Fans can catch Saturday Night Live live on NBC at 11:30 p.m. ET and on streaming on Peacock.