Billboard cover star Daniel Caesar is joined by his friend and collaborator Tyler, the Creator for a hilarious conversation surrounding their work on Tyler’s Billboard 200 No. 1 album ‘Chromakopia.’ The two dive into behind-the-scenes secrets of making the album, what makes their friendship so special and if a hit really matters.
Kyle Denis:How y’all two doing today though?
Daniel Caesar: Very good.
Very good, very good.
Tyler, the Creator: How are you doing Kyle?
When was the last time y’all two were together?
Daniel Caesar: Like four days ago.
Tyler, the Creator: Yeah, I saw this n—a four days ago. Also, I’m doing terrible. I haven’t slept, this tour is whooping my a–. We in Norway right now. I’ve been surrounded by white people for the last three weeks. I’m losing it n—a.
What do y’all normally do when you guys are hanging out together?
Tyler, the Creator: No lie, when me and Daniel kick it, it’s really just us sharing one thought for two hours.
Daniel Caesar: It’s true.
Tyler, the Creator: Legit, one friend like, “Yo, I had a thought,” and it’s never a complete thought. It’s always like a 40% thought that we’re still working out, and then we sit and, like, trade back and forth perspectives and this and that, and by the time we leave, we have the full thought. And that’s one thing I really like about Daniel. It feels like in the outer layer, would not say that, like most folks would not think this, but me and him do share specific frequency, and I think that’s why we click, and it works so well. And I f–king love this dude. He a b–ch, though.
Daniel Caesar: I want to say to that, like, I think we like to figure things out, and we’re also both at, like, not obviously, you know, I mean, he’s been doing this for such a long time. And there’s like, there’s like, this kind of, you know, putting me on to s–t and showing me things that he’s been through, and, like, showing me the way. I feel like both of our brains are, like, almost fully developed, and so we’re looking to the future together. And like, we both like to discuss, like, how we want our lives to look when we’re old, you know. And I think, at least me now more than ever, like, I’m trying to think into the future more, and I feel like, you’re, you’re on the same s–t.
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It’s been years since Daniel Caesar felt completely at home in Toronto. But sitting onstage at the Mod Club on a hot June night, he’s comfortable and happy in the glow of the familiar lights.
This is the venue where Caesar had his first major headlining concert in 2016 — long before he’d headlined Toronto’s Scotiabank Arena and New York’s Madison Square Garden, as he did on his most recent tour in 2023.
Tonight, standing before just 600 people both solo and accompanied only by his longtime collaborators Matthew Burnett and Jordan Evans on guitar and drums, respectively, Caesar has his particular magnetism on display; open-hearted and warm, his natural spontaneity and looseness connect him deeply to the fans at this intimate show, part of Billboard Canada’s THE STAGE at NXNE. They sing along to nearly every word.
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Admittedly a little drunk and a bit high on mushrooms, Caesar is reflective and verbose: His tender vocals do the talking — but so does he. “The last time I played here, I was 21, 22,” he says from the stage. “Now I’m 30, and it’s really cool to see a bunch of people who look the way I looked the last time I played here… I was a scruffy-ass kid, in these Toronto streets. I was basically a homeless kid.”
He recounts how, on his way to the venue, he passed many of the most meaningful spots from his early career — days when, estranged from his parents as a teenager, he’d traveled from the suburbs to the city, jumping between friends’ couches and occasionally park benches.
“It’s a full-circle moment,” he continues, finally arriving at the right words. “And yeah, I could have just said ‘full-circle moment,’ but my feelings are complicated and I’m trying to communicate them to you.”
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It’s the right moment for the singer to return to his roots. The moody, introspective wave of genre-blurring R&B that Caesar helped usher in over the last decade has gone fully mainstream, and Caesar himself has reaped some of the rewards — he won a 2019 Grammy Award for his “Best Part,” featuring H.E.R.; was featured alongside Giveon on Justin Bieber’s “Peaches,” which debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 2021; and his fruitful collaboration with Tyler, The Creator played a big role in sending the rapper’s 2024 album, Chromakopia, to No. 1 on the Billboard 200.
But for Caesar, the past few years have been a bit bumpier as he’s confronted the pressures (and consequences) of fame, independence and his own penchant for emotional honesty. Now, reunited with the team that initially propelled him, he’s getting ready to release Son of Spergy, his first new album since 2023’s Never Enough, later this year. He says he’s in a purer place: older and wiser, seeking his early innocence yet ready to move forward. The album’s first single, “Have a Baby (With Me),” comes July 25.
“I feel like we’re picking up where we left off,” he says. “I almost feel like I’m starting again — and I love it.”
Born Ashton Simmonds in the Ontario suburb of Oshawa, Caesar grew up in a religious Seventh-day Adventist household. He clashed with his parents as a teenager and eventually dropped out of school and moved to Toronto, couch-surfing with friends while he pursued his music career. In 2015, he linked up with Evans and Burnett (who he’d known since 2012) to form Golden Child Recordings, an independent collective of artists and producers that also acted as a label and his management.
After a pair of well-regarded EPs, 2014’s Praise Break and 2015’s Pilgrim’s Paradise, the singer’s 2017 debut full-length, Freudian, was hailed as an instant classic. The romantic “Best Part” with H.E.R. and “Get You” with Kali Uchis both cracked the Hot 100 and reached No. 1 on the Adult R&B Airplay chart, the former for four weeks, becoming enduring modern standards of the genre; recently, they both appeared on Apple Music’s list of the most streamed songs of the last decade.
In the city that had produced global superstars Drake and The Weeknd, Caesar was touted as the next big thing — the hottest name in the wave of local talent that included artists like Jessie Reyez, Charlotte Day Wilson and BadBadNotGood. Big-name collaborators like Pharrell Williams and John Mayer started to call, and so did major labels. But in 2019, Caesar hit a public roadblock that slowed his momentum and led him into an identity crisis.
“I was on a path, and then a lot of drama and controversy that I didn’t foresee entered my life and I got knocked off the path. I had achieved [the success] that I always wanted, and then I felt like I was going to lose it,” he says. “For being myself.”
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A few months before the release of his second album, Case Study 01, Caesar went live on Instagram while visibly intoxicated and launched into a rambling defense of YesJulz, a white female influencer who had been accused of cultural appropriation and making disparaging comments about Black women. He questioned why Black people were being “so mean to white people,” adding, “That’s not equality.”
The backlash was swift. He didn’t suffer an immediate industry freeze-out, but there was a noticeable chill, some of it self-imposed: Caesar retreated from the public eye, posting less on social media and giving fewer interviews.
“I was canceled for, you know, speaking my mind,” he says, then pauses to rethink his words: “I was canceled for being drunk and foolish in public. But that was something I was always allowed to do. No one gave a s–t [until I started to get famous].”
Caesar apologized for his comments a few days after his post and, in the years since, hasn’t shied away from reflecting on them further. But though the repercussions for him largely happened on social media, Caesar admits the whole episode deeply affected him. Sensitive by nature, it took him years to process his fear of being misunderstood. He’d been accustomed to expressing his thoughts freely, talking through big ideas with friends no matter how messy or half-formed they might be — an impulse that informs the big-hearted honesty of his music, but which has also gotten him into trouble at times.
“I’m literally my father’s son,” he explains. “My dad was the guy at sabbath lunch talking about how the government was going to put microchips in our arms. And I’m the same. If you get me riled up at a party, I’ll start talking about some crazy s–t. People roll their eyes, but that’s just the way we are.”
By the time the coronavirus pandemic hit, Caesar was already in a fragile state of mind. Case Study 01 had found a following but didn’t yield the same kind of breakout hits as Caesar’s previous releases. And after years on the road, he found himself in Toronto for the first extended period in years. Searching for peace of mind, he spent some time on his parents’ farm a couple of hours outside the city in Peterborough. But he no longer felt at home in the same way. He tried moving to Los Angeles, closer to the heart of the music industry, but didn’t feel entirely comfortable there either, especially as a single person. “I found it too isolating,” he says. “It’s like, you’re in your car or you’re in your house.” (He now lives in Downtown Manhattan.)
During this transitional period, Caesar ended up scoring the biggest hit of his career: when he co-wrote and guested on Bieber’s 2021 track “Peaches.” They worked on the song remotely, Caesar says, but he’s since spent time in the studio making music with the star singer; Caesar co-produced, co-wrote, sang backup and played bass on “Devotion,” off Bieber’s just-released album, SWAG. “He can sing his ass off,” he says. “He’s also so open and kind and generous. I can spot a fellow Canadian when I see one.”
In 2022, after being independent since the start of his career, Caesar signed his first major-label deal with Republic Records for his third album, Never Enough. It was the first time he’d broken off from the Golden Child Recordings team that had guided his career from the start.
“I was almost sheltered,” he admits. “I had never worked without them. They were like my career parents.”
Caesar is vague about what happened next, but he says he was naive, taking some people at their word that he shouldn’t have. “The music industry is awful and most people are awful,” he says. He sought out new management and realized that, as an artist without a strong business sense of his own, he needed to surround himself with people he could trust. “I’m open to the world, and that’s how I write songs,” he says. “But that makes me a sitting duck for anyone who wants to feed me faulty information.”
In 2023, he released Never Enough, which produced his biggest album chart success thus far, peaking at No. 14 on the Billboard 200 and No. 6 on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums. It was warmly received, with critics praising Caesar’s breathtaking vocals as well as his blend of experimental production and introspective lyrics; it also led to his biggest shows yet, including arena dates in both his hometown of Toronto and his adopted one of New York. But for Caesar, something still didn’t feel right.
“I feel like [on Case Study 01 and Never Enough] there was this undertone of anger,” he admits. “Growing up, I was angry about so many things, and it was inappropriate to express it. And so it would come out in the music.”
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He’d been searching without much luck for a reconnection to the earlier days of his career, when it was less influenced by business concerns or expectations of critical or industry approval. Toronto, too, had changed. Some of the spots most meaningful to him were gone, replaced by shimmering glass condos. Unsure how to live in the city, he’d return to old haunts like Apt. 200, the trendy DJ hotspot he frequented when he was 19 — and find himself still surrounded by 19-year-olds.
“I felt like a stranger in my own city,” he says. “It actually made me feel really sad.”
Seeing most of his high school friends grow up and have kids made him acutely aware of just how different his own lifestyle had become. He’d never wanted children or the traditional trappings of adulthood; still, he felt like he needed to make a change.
“It’s not like I’m going to stop making music. This is what I love to do,” he says. “It’s more about trying to grow up and take accountability for all the ways that I’m selfish or push people away or…” He pauses. “You know, you cut people off if they don’t fit into your idea of life. But that’s not the way family works. And family is, like — it’s the whole point of life.”
On the day we speak over Zoom, Caesar is at his place in New York, fresh off a spate of globe-trotting that included stops in Cairo and Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa with fellow artists Mustafa, Rex Orange County and Tamino.
Mustafa, also a Canadian singer-songwriter living in the United States, has become one of Caesar’s closest friends and collaborators. Caesar joined him last year for the Artists for Aid concerts in London and New Jersey benefiting humanitarian efforts in Sudan and Palestine, and he credits Mustafa with helping him connect his music to something bigger than himself and embrace a cause that he once felt too nervous to talk about. “Free Palestine,” he now says proudly.
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Together, Caesar and Mustafa work through their thoughts with their music, something they’ve done at informal pop-up shows around the world. “It’s really not even for the fans. It’s for us on the stage,” Caesar admits. “Sometimes I feel like the fans are like, ‘Just shut up and play “Get You.” ’ But this way we get to talk and figure out our ideas in public. It contributes to figuring out who we are and what we want to write about.”
One such show in Stockholm led to the Never Enough standout “Toronto 2014.” An older song originally written for Mustafa’s 2021 debut, When Smoke Rises, the new version took shape after the two worked through it onstage, exploring their complicated feelings surrounding nostalgia, innocence and the passage of time.
This time around, in Ethiopia, Caesar had other heavy subjects on his mind. “I didn’t even know exactly what I was looking for, but I just knew whatever I’m looking for is probably there,” he recalls.
Caesar was drawn to the country for several reasons: its historic connection to his own Jamaican heritage; the fact that it’s a Christian nation (Caesar visited the Church of Our Lady, Mary of Zion, believed by some to have held the original Ark of the Covenant); and especially the fact that it’s the only country in Africa that was (aside from a brief military occupation by Italy) never colonized. “It was really cool to see a culture of Black people whose culture is unintruded upon,” he says.
Since the response to his “cancellation,” Caesar has thought deeply about colonization, systemic racism and historical wounds. “That idea of, ‘Let’s all come together,’ on some Martin Luther King s–t — after that situation that I found myself in, I realized, ‘Oh, that’s not real. That’s not possible. There are too many scars.’ ”
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Lately, he’s also thinking a lot about religion, a subject he’s long explored in both his personal life and his music. His first EP was titled Praise Break, a reference to both the traditions of gospel and his own break from practicing his faith. Now, on his forthcoming new album, he’s exploring how to reconcile his religious upbringing with his more nuanced search for meaning as he matures. “Who’s going to be my Jesus?” he sings in the softly strummed “Moon,” which he debuted at the Mod Club show.
Caesar has been working on Son of Spergy for two years, piecing it together in sessions in Oracabessa, Jamaica and at Paris’ Rue Boyer and New York’s Electric Lady studios. Evans and Burnett are co-producers, along with Mustafa, who Caesar credits with helping him break out of his usual shyness to connect with other artists. The result is an impressive pool of collaborators on the album, including Sampha, Clairo, Blood Orange’s Dev Hynes, Bon Iver’s Justin Vernon, Rex Orange County and Yebba, among others.
He describes it as more guitar-based and “songwriter-y”, with lots of gospel influence — not just in the sound of the music, but in the spiritual soul-searching behind it.
“It’s about religion, but more importantly, it’s about my father,” he says of the album, whose title references his father’s nickname. “In your childhood, your father is a lot like God. He’s the person you fear the most on earth and also the person whose love and respect you desire more than anyone else on earth. It’s the source from where all your blessings come.”
As he’s found himself in compromising positions over the last few years, Caesar’s sure that something has been protecting him. And as he’s had to make hard decisions, he’s realized that, even when he was presenting himself as an atheist, the values he was raised with still guided him.
“I always compare it to a computer operating system,” he explains. “My parents raised me with Christianity. If I’m a Mac computer, I can’t just wake up one day and decide to run Windows. That’s not who I am. My best bet is just to update the macOS.”
As he figures out how to update his own programming, discovering kindred spirits has been helpful — above all, Tyler, The Creator. Caesar collaborated with the rapper on 2024’s Chromakopia, receiving official credits as a writer on three tracks and a singer on four. But his fingerprints are all over the album — both in its warm vocals and its introspective existential themes.
The two artists bonded in and out of the studio, often sharing long conversations about the future. “I’ve been making music since before I had pubic hair,” Tyler says of their similar starts in the industry. “I got famous at 18, 19 years old, so my version of the real world is so completely different from most. Now I’m at a place where I’m really thinking about kids, my back, if I’m going to be doing this for a long time or where I’m going to live outside of home and why I’ve stayed in L.A. for so long. I think me and Daniel are kind of in a similar place with that.”
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Onstage at Tyler’s Camp Flog Gnaw last year, the artist credited Caesar with getting Chromakopia finished. A musical maximalist, he relied on Caesar to weigh in on production and arrangement details and tell him when too much was too much, which took some getting used to.
“He’s a genius. He’s such an important voice for our generation,” Caesar says. “I felt like, ‘Who am I to tell you what you should do?’ ”
Now he credits Tyler with helping him break out of his soft-spoken suburban Canadian humility to confidently pursue his musical vision at all costs.
“I think he knows he’s so f–king ill now,” Tyler says. “I think he kind of knew it… but now he’s walking around like, ‘Yes, my d–k is 15 inches.’ That’s that energy.”
That experience has also made him more intentional about the people with whom he surrounds himself. After finishing the album cycle for Never Enough, Caesar reached back out to Evans and Burnett — his first collaborators, whom he knows will always have his back — which has made him feel grounded again in the business. Along with Devante Browne (who he’s also known since childhood) and manager Marc Jordan of State of the Art in L.A., the two are now co-managing Caesar again.
“I did all these things, made all these changes and realized — I had it right the first time,” he reflects. “I just had to sit my ass down and take the lesson.”
His performance at the Mod Club felt like it cemented their reunion. There was a lightness and ease in Caesar’s demeanor, the way he sang, in his boyish grin.
“Starting was the best part,” he tells me. “It feels like a hobby. Then it becomes your job and it’s corrupted by commerce. That’s not why I started making music. I started because I had something to say. I had feelings I needed to process. Now it just feels pure.”
Additional reporting by Kyle Denis.
This story appears in the July 19, 2025, issue of Billboard.
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Jeremy Erlich has launched ALTA Music Group, an independent, full-service music company based in Los Angeles, it was announced on Thursday (July 24). The first artist signed to the company’s management division is JENNIE, whom Erlich has been co-managing alongside her own company, OddAtelier (OA), since he exited his role as Spotify’s vp/global head of music in October.
Meanwhile, ALTA’s recorded music and publishing rosters boast singer-songwriter Cat Matthews, New York alternative rap group WHATMORE and rapper Bodhi Bleu.
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ALTA has partnered with The Orchard for worldwide distribution and label services and has also entered a global partnership agreement with Teddy Park’s THEBLACKLABEL to develop and promote one another’s signings.
“Throughout my career I’ve focused on the best way to service artists around the world that would create an environment that sets them up for long-term, global success,” Erlich said in a statement. “With ALTA we have the opportunity to do just that — a best in class team focused solely on supporting our artists and the music they create. Everything else does not matter. I’m grateful to the artists and executives who have already put their trust in me and our company.”
That team includes Nima Khalilian, Parker Ulry, Drake Hofer, Elise Eriksen, Gillian Taugher and Michael Seltzer.
Prior to Spotify, Erlich spent eight years between Universal Music Group and Interscope Geffen A&M. While working as the latter’s executive vp of business development in the late 2010s, he helped facilitate the global partnership between Interscope and YG, which brought BLACKPINK to the label.
As Brad Navin, CEO of The Orchard, said in a statement: “Jeremy’s decision to launch ALTA Music Group is a testament to his entrepreneurial spirit, deep understanding of the global music landscape, and commitment to artist development.”
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It’s been years since Daniel Caesar felt completely at home in Toronto. But sitting onstage at the Mod Club on a hot June night, he’s comfortable and happy in the glow of the familiar lights.
This is the venue where Caesar had his first major headlining concert in 2016 — long before he’d headlined Toronto’s Scotiabank Arena and New York’s Madison Square Garden, as he did on his most recent tour in 2023.
Tonight, standing before just 600 people both solo and accompanied only by his longtime collaborators Matthew Burnett and Jordan Evans on guitar and drums, respectively, Caesar has his particular magnetism on display; open-hearted and warm, his natural spontaneity and looseness connect him deeply to the fans at this intimate show, part of Billboard Canada’s THE STAGE at NXNE. They sing along to nearly every word.
Admittedly a little drunk and a bit high on mushrooms, Caesar is reflective and verbose: His tender vocals do the talking — but so does he. “The last time I played here, I was 21, 22,” he says from the stage. “Now I’m 30, and it’s really cool to see a bunch of people who look the way I looked the last time I played here… I was a scruffy-ass kid, in these Toronto streets. I was basically a homeless kid.”
He recounts how, on his way to the venue, he passed many of the most meaningful spots from his early career — days when, estranged from his parents as a teenager, he’d traveled from the suburbs to the city, jumping between friends’ couches and occasionally park benches.
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The Veronica Electronica remix project of Madonna‘s Ray of Light arrives on Friday. Originally considered as a name for the 1998 album, Veronica Electronicafeatures eight edits of songs from the album and comes 27 years after Ray of Light‘s release.
The original album’s campaign put Madonna, as ever, into the center of cultural consciousness, with the superstar making a barrage of appearances and performing music from the album on television and awards shows ranging from The Rosie O’Donnell Show to Top of the Pops to The Oprah Winfrey Show and the 1998 Academy Awards, where she presented the Oscar for best original song and mingled with fellow icons including Cher, Joni Mitchell and Fiona Apple on the red carpet.
Madonna’s appearance at the 1998 MTV Video Music Awards, on Sept. 10 of that year, was dominated by the “Ray of Light” video, a clip that was such a big deal, it got a limited-edition release on VHS. (Flipping between quick-cut edits of scenes from life on Earth and Madonna dancing, it remains one of the most iconic music videos of all time.)
The video won four awards (video of the year, best female video, best direction in a video and best choreography in a video), with the night also seeing Madonna — who by this point had flipped her blond hair from the album cover into a dark brown — perform the song alongside Lenny Kravitz and a gaggle of dancers. The performance expanded Ray of Light’s thrust of electronic music into the mainstream by presenting the fashion and dancing of this musical subculture to the global audience tuned in to the VMAs.
Through this swirl of appearances, Madonna presented some of her now most iconic looks, from the silky turquoise blue top of the album’s cover, shot by famed photographer Mario Testino, to the red Jean Paul Gaultier kimono she wore while accepting her and Ray of Light‘s Grammy for best pop album and the white tank top and purple trousers she changed into later in the evening.
See photos of Madonna during the Ray of Light era below.
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After leading the events division of major Hispanic media giant SBS (Spanish Broadcasting Systems) for more than a decade, executive Lucas Piñais applying his live event experience to build a very different kind of festival.
The Mega Extraterrestrial Fest V (or MEF5 for short), which is being billed as “the first extraterrestrial global brand,” is envisioned as a three-day fest that will feature 11 hours of music daily, featuring more than 30 DJs and artists. The fest will also feature “characters” designed and created for the festival’s multiverse, which will be built using holograms, special effects, digital animation, augmented reality and an original soundtrack.
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The event is slated to take place in Las Vegas in 2027 and is being produced and built by Piña’s company, 360 Worldwide Entertainment (360WWE), in partnership with MGM Resorts, global production company Production Resource Group (PRG, which most recently worked on the digital technology of the film Smile 2) and SBS Entertainment. Other partners include Sony Music, special effects design company Weta Workshop and character development and visual effects company MIO Design NYC.
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The MEF5 concept was developed by Piña after he left his post as head of SBS Entertainment In 2019. The objective was always to create a music-centric multiverse steeped in fantasy for what he calls the “Ser-Ser Generation,” which is non-violent and invites fans to engage in self-discovery.
Piña set his sights on Las Vegas as a launching pad and enlisted a roster of A-list producers and partners to execute his vision, including John Fragomeni as co-founder and president. Fragomeni was previously global president of Digital Domain during the years the entertainment and production studio was nominated for multiple Academy Awards for best visual effects for Spider Man: No Way Home and Avengers: Infinity War, among others.
Four-time Tony winner Jere Harris, founder and executive chairman of PRG, was brought in as general producer for the entire festival, also bringing extensive experience in creating and producing large-scale stagings, including EFX at MGM Las Vegas and Broadway’s Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark.
Harris, in turn, brought in James Lehner, also of PRG, as general producer, with a background that includes the development of attractions like Terminator 2 in 3D and Star Trek: The Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton.
The executive team at 360 also includes Grace Roeder as founder and president of mergers & acquisitions, and Luis Pascual as chief creator of scenography experience.
While Piña plans to expand the MEF5 brand into areas like film, games and crypto, the starting point is the Las Vegas festival.
“It is a genre of cosmic fantasy that integrates philosophy, spirituality, science, and technology,” says Piña. “Through these four narratives, we seek to find the right information for a simpler understanding, from a non-violent perspective, developing a new community that will be identified as the SER-SER generation.”
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Musicians are still widely thought of as sidemen, but they’re quietly gaining prominence as digital companies mature.
Allmusic.com, a reference site that launched in 1994, is the granddaddy of the free, public-facing sources for country musician data, routinely providing credits for entire albums. But Apple Music and Genius.com have upped the competition for information by providing more granular data for individual tracks. And YouTube, in recent years, has begun stuffing track-specific musician info into the gray area that features copyright material and total views underneath its videos. In some cases, the public inputs the data. In others, data experts such as Xperi gather the information and lease it to public sites.
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“It’s the latest phase in a very interesting, convoluted journey, starting with the demise of physical product,” says Nashville’s American Federation of Musicians Local 257 president Dave Pomeroy. “There’s less and less physical product [with] space to write the credits in.”
To be certain, that reduction in space for credits occurred before the streaming era began. Track-by-track credits probably peaked in album liner notes in the late 1970s and early 1980s, particularly among jazz, rock and pop recordings. When the CD replaced vinyl albums, the liner notes tended to lump the project’s total musician credits together. If the credits featured, say, five different drummers and 10 guitarists, it was impossible for the listener to know which were participating in a particular track. Plus, the type was so small that many consumers needed a magnifying glass to read them. It was such a hassle that a once-pleasurable experience became a chore.
And yet, that CD platform looked more attractive to music nerds once the streaming era took hold.
“If you’re downloading an mp3, you’re lucky to get an album cover, let alone figure out who played harpsichord or saxophone or who did the turntables on the specific track,” AllMusic.com senior product manager Zac Johnson says. “That has been lost for a while, but I think people are seeing the importance of it. Being able to [provide] that kind of stuff — not only at an album level, but at a song level — is of value to people.”
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The uptick in musician credits is a result of at least two different developments. First, record labels have stepped up their game in providing that kind of metadata to companies that want to use it.
“It used to be a real hodgepodge,” Johnson says. “Sometimes you’d [just] get a UPC and an album title, and sometimes you would get everything down to the hair and makeup people that worked on the album. So I think it has improved over the years.”
Additionally, the resurgence of vinyl albums has returned the available space for liner notes on physical product to 1970s levels, and that info is thus more readily available to fans who, once they’re approved, input that data to some public sites, including Genius and Wikipedia.
“There is some amount of information that we get directly from artists and their teams, but that’s definitely the minority,” says Genius.com product manager Colby Handy. “We have over 10 million song pages on the site, and it’s really just those passionate music fans who wait up late at night for the album drop just to transcribe the lyrics or they’re eager for the next announcement from their favorite artists, and they kind of get the recognition and feel like [they’re] being a part of the music as it comes out.”
Maintaining that metadata is harder than it might appear. Some sites, for example, have listings for both the misspelled guitarist Dan Huff and the correctly labeled Dann Huff. HARDY, meanwhile, is the stage name for songwriter Michael Hardy, and the data-entry staff — as well as their editors — need to be aware of as many of those alternate names as they can to make their database as authoritative as possible.
And for most websites, that data is not the primary attraction. Some 90% of Genius.com visitors use the site for lyrics, Handy says, and the musician info is intended to enrich the experience. YouTube visitors presumably would reference that data as they listen to a particular song, possibly combing through the credits to identify the guitarist who plays the solo, as an example. When they see that same name on other songs, it becomes another layer of understanding that can make the listening experience deeper.
“As a casual music listener, especially as a young casual music listener, you might not even think about who’s playing the drums,” Handy notes. “You might not even think to look for that information. And so having that be accessible to everyone feels really important for us because it exposes that idea to people. And you can kind of get lost going through the interconnected spiderweb of it all.”
Making the information accessible is one thing; making it obvious is another. Seventy percent of Genius.com’s traffic comes from mobile devices, according to Handy, and smartphones’ smaller screens make it more difficult to present metadata in a spot on the page where most viewers can see it without compromising their access to the lyrics that typically drove them to the site.
AllMusic.com’s Johnson says he has seen plenty of companies attempt to build a business around metadata, only to disappear within a few years. The AFM’s Pomeroy has likewise been in talks for decades about those credits, which affect payments to union members when recordings are used on TV shows or in commercials.
Still, despite the growing interest in credits, no one to date can take credit for standardizing the data.
“I can’t tell you how many conversations I’ve had over the last 10 years, if not 20 years, about metadata and how metadata was going to fix everything because all the information is going to get embedded into the files,” Pomeroy says. “But I’m not aware of there ever being a consensus as to what the format in the system was going to be.”
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Michael, the highly anticipated biopic from Lionsgate and Universal Pictures and directed by Antoine Fuqua will now debut on April 24, 2026, instead of its originally slated October 2025 release.
The decision—first reported by Deadline—comes after the principal photography wrapped in May 2024, but extensive reshoots and a lengthy initial cut required extra post‑production time. Studio executives had previously hinted at a delay while determining whether to split Michael into two parts, given its ambitious scope and $155 million budget.
The screenplay by John Logan explores key chapters of Jackson’s life, from his childhood under Joe and Katherine Jackson’s strict guidance to his record‑breaking solo career. Jaafar Jackson, the late singer’s real-life nephew, steps into the role of Michael Jackson.
The cast includes Colman Domingo and Nia Long as Joe and Katherine Jackson; Miles Teller as attorney John Branca; Larenz Tate as Berry Gordy; Laura Harrier as Suzanne de Passe; Kat Graham as Diana Ross; Jessica Sula as La Toya Jackson; Liv Symone as Gladys Knight; Kevin Shinick as Dick Clark; and Kendrick Sampson as Quincy Jones, among others.
Oscar‑winning producer Graham King (The Departed) leads a production team that has negotiated rights to some of Jackson’s most iconic songs. According to sources, this involved complex discussions with Jackson’s estate and multiple music publishers to recreate the sound and spectacle of Jackson’s onstage performances.
King previously shared, “I’m so honored to tell Michael’s story. It’s been a long journey, and I’m excited for the film to show audiences around the world a perspective of Michael that they’ve never seen.”
Adam Fogelson, Chair of the Lionsgate Motion Picture Group, added, “Michael Jackson was inarguably one of the greatest entertainers of all time. His impact on music, video, art, fashion, and culture is still profoundly relevant.”
Universal will handle international distribution—excluding Japan, where Kino Films holds the release rights—while Lionsgate retains domestic theatrical duties.
As the April 2026 release approaches, Lionsgate and Universal plan to roll out teasers and behind‑the‑scenes featurettes showcasing Jaafar Jackson’s transformation, archival footage integration, and recreations of Jackson’s legendary performances.
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RAYE has carved out yet another milestone in her ascendant career by becoming a recipient of an Ivors Academy Honor.
The Ivors Academy has announced that the multi BRIT award-winning musician will receive the accolade at the maiden Ivors Academy Honours event in London this fall (Oct. 2). The ceremony is set to celebrate the artists and industry figures driving positive change for songwriters and composers, and will take place at the InterContinental London Park Lane.
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At The Ivors in 2023, RAYE called on labels to allocate songwriters a share of master recording revenues. In her acceptance speech for the best contemporary song award – which she won for smash hit “Escapism” – she highlighted the need for a greater level of respect to be shown towards “voiceless beating heart of the industry, which is songwriters.”
In a statement, Roberto Neri, chief executive of The Ivors Academy said, “An incredible multi award-winning artist, RAYE is the one of the most gifted songwriters of her generation and always gives full respect and voice to fellow writers. She has consistently called for better pay and greater recognition for songwriters, championing structural change to protect the talent behind the music we love. We’re proud to honour her with this well-deserved recognition.”
Over the past few years, south Londoner RAYE (born Rachel Keen) has been at the forefront of this conversation, repeatedly pushing for a more inclusive and equitable music industry while also speaking out about the imbalance of power between artists and labels and the financial challenges faced by new artists.
She split with her former label Polydor in July 2021, to which she signed in 2014, after taking to social media to explain that they would not let her release any new music unless her singles reached a certain level of commercial success. She has since worked as an independent act via distribution company Human Re Sources, a subsidiary of The Orchard. Her Mercury Prize-nominated debut LP My 21st Century Blues landed in February 2023, hitting No. 2 on the Official U.K. Albums Chart.
The vocalist is currently gearing up for her biggest headline show to date at London’s All Points East festival on Aug. 23. Support acts include Doechii, Cat Burns, and JADE, while Tyla is billed as a special guest.
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Sabrina Carpenter has taken the notion of “man’s best friend” quite literally in the weeks leading up to her seventh studio album, Man’s Best Friend.
Set for release on August 29 via Island Records, the LP’s rollout has been anything but ordinary: Carpenter enlisted a golden retriever puppy and a pair of lucky fans to unveil her tracklist, two songs at a time, in a series of Instagram and Twitter posts that combined star power with canine cuteness.
About a month after announcing the album, Carpenter began the tracklist reveal on July 23 by introducing track 12, “Goodbye,” alongside a photo of fan Mariah cradling the puppy in her arms. In her caption she wrote, “track #12 is ‘Goodbye’ but mariah is helping us say hello to our tracklist reveal.”
Two days later, Carpenter returned to the pup brigade to share track 11—“House Tour”—featuring fan Neriah in a similar snapshot, captioned “neriah & a golden = home sweet home. track #11 is ‘House Tour.’” Both posts drew hundreds of thousands of likes, with fans applauding the innovative, heartwarming approach.
Carpenter then took to Twitter to amplify the moment, reposting excited reactions from @overdosedontun (“omggg sabrina asked me to reveal track 11 ‘House Tour’ from Man’s Best Friend !!!”) and urging fellow fans to rally: “Track 11 stans rise.” Beyond the puppy reveals, Carpenter has maintained momentum for Man’s Best Friend by leaning into playful fan interaction and capitalizing on her comedic timing—qualities that have earned her more than 5 million Instagram followers and built genuine community around her music.
The forthcoming album follows 2024’s Short n’ Sweet and arrives amid Carpenter’s latest lead single “Manchild,” released on June 5. Man’s Best Friend will drop almost exactly a year after Carpenter released breakthrough album Short n’ Sweet, which spent four weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200. So far, fans have only gotten to hear one song from the new record — “Manchild,” which dropped in June and debuted atop the Billboard Hot 100, marking Carpenter’s second-ever No. 1 song.
In keeping with the album’s canine theme, Man’s Best Friend is available to preorder in multiple formats, including a Jacob Rochester–painted picture disc that depicts Carpenter in a surreal tableau beside a suited figure.
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